Dear all,

The Branch is going to be created later today/early tomorrow (in GMT).

We are almost one week behind the schedule. I've spent some time during the weekend to check the issues and PRs we are having right now.

I would like to ask for a round (0) to review an merge whatever outstanding PRs we can before the branch. I know it is a tedious task but really needs to be done.

I did what I could, but I've ended up merging my own trivial PR-s without having a review lately to keep this ball rolling.

So I put my RM hat on, I'd need a shadow as I'm still planning to travel to Europe in March. If Neil wishes he can take the RM hat from me and I can be his shadow, whatever.


On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
first candidate.

Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?

Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
these tasks?

Gj


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
-- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
needed):
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README

Gj



On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
RM.
Dive right in and do it!

--emi


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
vote
in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
-- to
be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
it
before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
the
experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
him
would be great for the next round.

Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
our
first voting candidate as scheduled:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
the
release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
didn't
volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
should
Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
happy
to do it.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
something
else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
too.
I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
RMs
to ask questions.

--emi


On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

For the release manager and his shadow:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
beforehand.
:-)
Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
Manager?
Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com
On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
shadow
release
manager!
Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
the
process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
about
learning while being main RM.

(Not to be confused with British politics where the
'shadow'
minister is
the opposition minister. :-) )
In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
everyone
else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
politics
in this! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil


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