Thanks Tim. Great suggestions and ideas. This is somewhere along the lines I am coming from.
" The best way to win that entire game is not to play." - I really wish I had that choice. But given that we're running a pretty big team with significant code being churned out, only choice I have is to ensure the logs are structured. Regards Arnab -----Original Message----- From: Tim Boudreau [mailto:niftin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:38 AM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Question | Logger | NetBeans plugin If you're really looking for machine-readable log messages, Bunyan is an elegant solution for NodeJS [1]. I wrote a Java port [2][3][4] - no connection the the JDK logger, but probably one could write a JDK logger formatter that would format messages (though it would be ugly and purely by convention). It's a particularly simple and elegant approach: A log message is a single line of JSON with a few required fields and the rest freeform. It also makes it absurdly easy to do things such as create a tiny HTTP server that lets you stream live log messages and parse and present them prettily in a browser, or chew on them in other ways. NodeJS bunyan also comes with some handy command-line tools for filtering live logs (also useful with curl). The bottom line on logging is that, once upon the time, Apache had horrible log files. And everybody looked at that and said "Hey, they have log files! Whatever they did must be right". And an industry evolved around parsing horrific crap to try to turn it into something useful. And everybody's expectations were set that logs were going to be horrible, and more horrible things had to be invented to parse them. The JDK's logger is in that tradition - that's what people thought they wanted. The best way to win that entire game is not to play. Anyway, yes, you could do something with the JDK's logger, or write a wrapper around it (better), to structure log messages (say, throw key value pairs into a map and write that as JSON) - what I did for bunyan-java was use AutoCloseable to let you add key value pairs to a log record on the fly and flush it on close - it works pretty nicely, since you can capture a bunch of information about what is happening, failures, etc. in a single log message as the code does its work: try (Log<?> log = downloadLog.info("download")) { log.add("cnb", item.codeNameBase()) .add("id", id.get()) .add("version", item.getVersion()) .add("hash", item.hash()) .add(evt); } [1] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_trentm_node-2Dbunyan&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=D1IHkKGFvzxf_5_uVPbRqKrc_sYohvaaqKm9-IRA5w4&m=nDsBOXztYZapv2na7rEgL33-S5njlLMAd6ipZ6Oee48&s=jK-bGbSaQC4T4jM5NL_USJ-dSFwzgBHeZKcThpa2-t8&e= [2] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_timboudreau_bunyan-2Djava&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=D1IHkKGFvzxf_5_uVPbRqKrc_sYohvaaqKm9-IRA5w4&m=nDsBOXztYZapv2na7rEgL33-S5njlLMAd6ipZ6Oee48&s=QOGTkLgX5btkx6tF5-r0XzrTcYdeioQBWDcrXZ9ssX8&e= [3] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__timboudreau.com_builds_job_mastfrog-2Dparent_lastSuccessfulBuild_artifact_bunyan-2Djava_bunyan-2Djava_target_apidocs_index.html&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=D1IHkKGFvzxf_5_uVPbRqKrc_sYohvaaqKm9-IRA5w4&m=nDsBOXztYZapv2na7rEgL33-S5njlLMAd6ipZ6Oee48&s=I0_w-dEeAPm_-4W9SHmofLm8MKZPCeN7leda5SKrwf4&e= [4] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__timboudreau.com_blog_bunyan_read&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=D1IHkKGFvzxf_5_uVPbRqKrc_sYohvaaqKm9-IRA5w4&m=nDsBOXztYZapv2na7rEgL33-S5njlLMAd6ipZ6Oee48&s=Se62QbyIZJfvKnpzC6BocCeJ7cdahda2Q1cAcJjF8TA&e= On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:24 AM Arnab Chanda <arnab.cha...@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi JT/Geertjan, > > This link talks about enabling the logging for NetBeans. I'm looking > for a netbeans plugin (if it exists) that would actually decorate the > code with structured logger messages on the source code I'm working on. > > For example, there is a plugin in netbeans that allows us to scan the > code written for possible sonar violations. I'm looking for something > similar, except that this one would write the logger messages for us too. > > Best. > Arnab > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jaroslav Tulach [mailto:jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 10:35 PM > To: Apache NetBeans > Subject: Re: Question | Logger | NetBeans plugin > > > Does this help: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bits.netbeans.or > > g_ > > dev_javadoc_org-2Dopenide-2Dutil_org_openide_util_doc-2Dfiles_logging. > > html&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=D1IHkK > > GF > > vzxf_5_uVPbRqKrc_sYohvaaqKm9-IRA5w4&m=nszPclj17EwS1Ks_Nz9KrSfHWXdOQq > > Ca VAR4F_M87G4&s=cDusfSiabzT96MpOjH--WrE3X4IAVUkv2L1CMJ3vjoY&e= > > > > > Right Geertjan, that is the best thing to do. 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