I love NB's and will never switch. I've been using it since 2013... and love 
it. But the lagging, the locking up on save, the memory leaks, the not being 
able to format... really is frustrating.  The other thing, I have only 1 or 2 
projects in a group open so, it's not massive projects in the app doing it.  
The background scanning takes forever...  scanning for external changes 
suspends not by my doing... just sits there... can't CLOSE IT...

Something I stated to John Chen in 1999 at the Sybase Techwave in Florida about 
Powerbuilder was, "Why are you putting out a product riddled with bugs when you 
can BEAT the competition and put a product as close to free of bugs?"  Well, 
being Chinese that was an insult which I didn't know... his response on the 
stage with the CEO of Tibco and other tech companies was, "Are you a plant?"  I 
worked for Sybase (former employee).

The next day, Raj Nathan, the VP stood in front of the 3000 people and 
vindicated me.  He committed to put out PB 5.0 as free from bugs as possible.  
I saw John going in to a meeting and stopped him, apologized for unconsciously 
insulting him and he thanked me for being so bold and bringing it to his 
attention.

But that's what WE NEED here folks. Eat the elephant one bite at a time.

Let's do what we need before putting it out there. We know there are bugs, we 
know there are problems, let's fix one at a time, prioritize them as P1, P2, or 
P3 where P1 is a showstopper, P2 has a workaround and P3 is plainly cosmetic. 
I'm old school and 59 years old.  Been doing this for over 35 years.

Let's BEAT the competition and put out the best product we can.

Agreed?


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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:26 AM
To: dev <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: netcat <net...@netbeans.apache.org>; Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
Subject: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

What is the best course of action for reporting slowness?  I can’t share my 
project.
I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is 
basically one step in most cases.  E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens 
for several seconds.  Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several 
seconds.  Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of 
a class less than 100 lines.

In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good 
considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.  I have so far 
found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other 
IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale.  
I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat 
to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB.  But I don’t have the 
bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it 
difficult to provide helpful reports :-(

Are others seeing the slowness?

Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, 
I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes 
more.

I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted. 
I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.

Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE?  Maybe I can 
collect something useful.

Scott


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