This is a difficult issue and causes no small amount of friction every
time. I'm personally against this for the following reassons:

- Some of the terms proposed are not industry standard and may potentially
cause significant issue for non-english speakers.

- For each change that is made can we guarantee that we will not lose
clarity of meaning, and then have revert the change down the line if the
change causes a drop in usage.

- Of what percentage of people is this truly an issue for and what
percentage isn't. Any change that has the potential to cause a major split
in the community, there must be as close as possible to a majority, and not
just from those that are vocal and active on the mailing lists.
Disscustions on other groups are turning toxic, and in some cases are
potentially leading to the collapse of these projects where these changes
are being implemented with what appears to be without the agreement of a
signifficant chunk of the community.

- From a personal perspective, I sit on the autism spectrum and have grown
up with people using words that are very offensive and have hurt me badly.
Instead of having these words as offensive and untouchable. Myself and
others have instead made these words our own and made them lose the
negative connotations they have. As such, I do find the current
disscustions deeply alarming and feels like they start to border into the
realm of censorship.

- One final point (and potentially controversial), A good chunk of the
wording that is proposed to be changed. Is being done so on the
"modern"/"street" definition of these words and not the actual definition.
Language should change and evolve to introduce clarity, but right now does
this change improve the clarity across the engineering sector and I believe
it won't.

Edward


On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 01:11 Andy LoPresto, <alopre...@apache.org> wrote:

> I am a proponent of making this change and also using allow/deny list,
> meddler-in-the-middle, etc.
>
> Here is a blog [1] with easy instructions for executing the change in git,
> although I don’t know if there is any Apache-integration specific changes
> we would also need.
>
> [1]
> https://www.hanselman.com/blog/EasilyRenameYourGitDefaultBranchFromMasterToMain.aspx
>
> Andy LoPresto
> alopre...@apache.org
> alopresto.apa...@gmail.com
> He/Him
> PGP Fingerprint: 70EC B3E5 98A6 5A3F D3C4  BACE 3C6E F65B 2F7D EF69
>
> > On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I suspect it would be fairly easy to make this change.  We do, I think,
> > have whitelist/blacklist in there somewhere but im not sure how involved.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:04 PM Tony Kurc <tk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> All,
> >> I've seen the discussion started on other projects [1][2], so I wanted
> to
> >> kick off a discussion to determine whether this is something nifi could
> >> look at too. Allen Wittenauer's post to yetus captures the why and some
> of
> >> the how, so rather than copy and pasting, you can take a look at what
> he's
> >> done. Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> 1.
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd38afa9fb6c0dcd77d1a677f1152b7398b3bda93c9106b3393149d10%40%3Cdev.yetus.apache.org%3E
> >> 2.
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r0825eec0c84296bdab7cf898a987f06355443241ca02b2aaa51d3ef9%40%3Cdev.accumulo.apache.org%3E
> >>
>
>

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