Hi,

I tried but didn't find any estimates for Nifi 2.0 release. Could someone
please let me know what's the approximate date of 2.0 release?

Best Regards,
Monty


On 2023/06/19 15:55:51 David Handermann wrote:
> Team,
>
> With the merge of PR 7397 [1] for NIFI-11717 [2], Java 17.0.6 is the
> minimum required version for building the main branch.
>
> There are still several remaining deprecated features that need to be
> removed for NiFi 2.0, and there are still areas of the system that need to
> be reviewed for additional cleanup. The Deprecated Components and Features
> page [3] lists the progress thus far.
>
> There is still opportunity to introduce new features and improvements in
> parallel with the technical debt reduction focus, and this could include
> evaluating a better strategy for supporting additional scripting engines.
>
> We should review the status of things after addressing some of the larger
> outstanding deprecation removals.
>
> Regards,
> David Handermann
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/nifi/pull/7397
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-11717
> [3]
>
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NIFI/Deprecated+Components+and+Features
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 10:34 PM Ryan Hendrickson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The major issue for our deployments would be the removal of Nashorn as
> > well.
> >
> > Would GraalVM or an alternative be considered as a part of an initial
NiFi
> > 2.0 release?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 12:38 PM Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Team,
> > >
> > > Looking like we will update the NiFi 2.0 goals to be based on Java 17
> > > instead of 11.
> > >
> > > The noted concern around Java removing Nashorn in 11/17 we will need
to
> > > identify an alternative plan for regardless and seems like David's
> > proposal
> > > would do the trick.
> > >
> > > Let's give this thread a few more days and if still seems consensus is
> > > present lets just assume lazy consensus and update the NiFi 2.0 goals
and
> > > make it happen.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:46 AM David Handermann <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree that moving forward with Java 17 as the minimum for NiFi
2.0 is
> > > the
> > > > best approach given the extended lifecycle of support for Java 17.
> > > >
> > > > With the removal of a number of legacy components, the current main
> > > branch
> > > > is in a much better position to make Java 17 the minimum.
> > > >
> > > > The deprecation and removal of Nashorn from the JDK is worth
> > > highlighting,
> > > > but it should not be a blocker for moving to Java 17. In this case,
> > NiFi
> > > is
> > > > reflecting the deprecation of Nashorn that already exists in Java
11. I
> > > > have submitted a PR for NIFI-11630 to mark ECMAScript as deprecated
for
> > > the
> > > > support branch in subsequent version 1 releases.
> > > >
> > > > With that background, there is ongoing maintenance of the Nashorn
> > engine
> > > as
> > > > an external library, in addition to the GraalVM solution. However,
this
> > > is
> > > > a good opportunity to take a different approach to scripting engine
> > > > integration. For maintenance and security purposes, it would be much
> > > better
> > > > to reduce the number of bundled scripting engines and make it
easier to
> > > > bring your own. The current scripting bundle is around 100 MB, which
> > is a
> > > > lot of weight for languages and solutions that do not apply across
the
> > > > board. Providing an alternative that makes it easier to bring in a
> > script
> > > > engine library should provide a better solution for the future. This
> > also
> > > > should not be a blocker for an initial NiFi 2.0, but it is worth
> > > > highlighting given the general interest in scripted components.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > David Handermann
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023, 11:38 PM Dirk Arends <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Who will be seriously impacted by the removal of Java 11 and
what
> > was
> > > > > your plan for upgrading to Java 17?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > I would support moving the minimum Java version to 17 if it wasn’t
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > fact that Nashorn will be removed. Nashorn is already deprecated
in
> > > Java
> > > > > 11, and was then fully removed in Java 15. I understand GraalVM is
> > > > intended
> > > > > to be its successor, however this has not yet been integrated into
> > NiFi
> > > > and
> > > > > I’ve been unable to satisfactorily integrate it myself to date.
> > > > >
> > > > > In my NiFi usage, I make heavy use of the JavaScript engine in
> > > > > ExecuteScript and InvokeScriptedProcessor processors. To take
> > advantage
> > > > of
> > > > > GraalVM supporting later ECMAScript versions than Nashorn, I have
> > been
> > > > > attempting to use GraalVM as the JavaScript Engine for NiFi with
> > > limited
> > > > > success.
> > > > >
> > > > > Further details have been provided in JIRA ticket NIFI-6229 [1]
and
> > I’d
> > > > > welcome any assistance in trying to finalise GraalVM support, but
> > > > otherwise
> > > > > I’d consider the loss of Nashorn to be a potential blocker to
> > adopting
> > > > Java
> > > > > 17.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-6229
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dirk Arends
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 03:23, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We've discussed in the past having NiFi 2.0 move from Java 8 to
> > Java
> > > 11
> > > > > as
> > > > > > the required minimum while also working on Java 17.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As we move on in time though we are now 4 months (Sept) from.
Java
> > 11
> > > > > > openJDK going end of support.  Meanwhile, the Spring 5.x line
goes
> > > end
> > > > of
> > > > > > support as of next year and Spring 6.x requires Java 17.  Also
Java
> > > 21
> > > > > > comes out in Sept as well and is already the next LTS release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am increasingly of the view that we should seriously
> > > discuss/consider
> > > > > > moving to Java 17 as our basis for NiFi 2.0 as otherwise it
> > basically
> > > > > means
> > > > > > we'll be forced to move to NiFi 3.0 quite quickly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We already know we can build and run on Java 17 so we're good
> > there.
> > > > > We'll
> > > > > > soon want to do the same for Java 21 ... and the more 'old
stuff'
> > we
> > > > hold
> > > > > > on to the harder it is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who will be seriously impacted by the removal of Java 11 and
what
> > was
> > > > > your
> > > > > > plan for upgrading to Java 17?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dirk Arends
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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