Jacques,

I just wanted to let you know that I will be very interested in VAT after
finishing miltary service and college! Keep up the spirit

Carl
Sweden


jacques.le.roux wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I waited some time and now, that after one week I got any responses on the
> ML, I'm asking myself if it's because :
>     1. I was unclear.
>     2 . This is interesting nobody.
>     3. Everybody is OK and just wait for a patch to come and review.
> Please feel free to express yourself (even using a single number ;o)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacques
> 
> 
>> Of course I forgot to say that if we use this idea we shall have to had
>> some custom code to show prices with tax included to user
> in
>> backoffice (catalog/prodcut/prices screen at least). And the more I thing
>> about it the more I believe we shall use "Product Rates"
>> in a drop down rather that having a new product attribute (adding
>> unneeded complexity) even if it seems less easy at first glance.
>>
>> We may encouter rounding issues but I guess pretty much has been
>> said/done about this already.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm finally considering a pragmatic solution for entering gross prices
>> (tax included, VAT included more precisely). In my mind
> and
>> > the sequel I will assimilate tax as a VAT of a specific rate defined by
>> product. But I guess this is applicable for other
> similar
>> > types of taxes. Actually a gross prices is composed of 2 parts : net
>> prices (without tax) and tax. At some point it may be
>> annoying
>> > to loose precision about them; but if we want to enter gross prices we
>> have to make some choices. And at the end, reconstructing
>> the
>> > gross prices from the 2 parts seems easy. If we keep enough information
>> (ie decimals) this might be manageable. As we use now
> Big
>> > Decimal for prices this is not a problem (except in POS where I hope to
>> change that "soon")
>> >
>> > Before describing my proposition (very simple actually, because I can't
>> see any other means) I want to be sure that taxVatCode
> is
>> > not used anymore (catalog/product screen). I can't see any use of it
>> except in ProductForms.xml and in
>> > applications/product/entitydef/entitymodel.xml which are only
>> declarations. Anybody can confirm, please ? If it's not used
> anymore
>> I
>> > suppose that Tax Category     Tax Vat Code   and    Tax Duty Code     
>> fields are also not needed ?
>> >
>> > My proposition is to enhance the existing UI, to allow gross prices
>> entering. This behaviour will be a store property (prices
> tax
>> > included or not).
>> >
>> > Actually this will be only at the UI level because we will keep net
>> prices in DB. So given a price tax included and a tax rate
> we
>> > will calculate and store only net prices. By default the store has a
>> tax rate (pecentage) given by the "Vat Tax Auth Geo Id"
> and
>> > "Vat Tax Auth Party Id"  fields pair. As tax rates may depends on
>> products we have to create a specific mechanism and related
>> field
>> > in catalog/product screen. Either by suggesting defined "Tax Types" in
>> "Tax Autority" "Product Rate" in a drop down or simply by
>> > entering a tax rate (percentage) in this field (it will then subsume -
>> or override in other words - the defautl store tax rate).
>> In
>> > such a case we will need to add a new attribute in Product entity to
>> store the eventual subsuming percentage. And we may
> suppress
>> > (or recycle) related attributes and fields (ie Tax Category     Tax Vat
>> Code   and    Tax Duty Code).
>> >
>> > We shall keep at least 5 decimals for the net price, perhaps even more,
>> what do you think ? This seems so simple, that I'm
> surely
>> > forgetting something :o)
>> >
>> > Anyway, we have to go further if we want to facilitate OFBiz
>> acceptation in, at least, Europe.
>> >
>> > Jacques
> 
> 
> 

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