I'm ok too with 3a). I missed it in my first reply. But I always prefer
having some tabs than plenty of links in an only left column. Does this
imply some issues, constraints ? Do you want to refactor the site ? why
supressing all tabs ? I agree that all this is a bit subjective BTW...
My only concern is too allow newbies to find informations in the fastest
possible way (ok some glitter is good also, Pentaho site looks great in
this POV, I love their bee :o).

Another think I learnt some time ago is a lesson from newspapers. Why do
you think they have narrow columns ? Because it's easier to read (less
eyeballs work). That's also how TV prompters are working. Of course they
are all journalists. Test it yourself when really tired, it's obvious. A
lesson for oneliners too (I'm a kind of because I did some APL ;o)

Jacques

From: "David E. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:15 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > what about slowly moving on the website refactoring?
> > Here are a few small steps that in my opinion should help this
effort:
> >
> > 1) remove (or at least comment out) from the main page the section
> > about  "Open Source Projects & Standards" (at the bottom of the
> > page); it is not necessary, it is not up to date and could be
> > confusing
>
> Jacques has an interesting point about this. Maybe a good alternative
> to both options would be to move this to a confluence page and just
> not have it so prominent on the home page.
>
> > 2) add a message about the upcoming dev conference (even if it is
> > an unofficial Apache event)
>
> This is next week, so it would be a good idea, and actually I should
> have done this a long time ago! I'll send out another email reminder
> about this to the dev list.
>
> > 3) split the "Docs&Books" page into two different pages:
> > 3a) "Documentation" that is the main index for the documentation,
> > and it should go into the Confluence server
> > 3b) "Books" page, leave it in html
>
> This sounds like a good idea. We should be able to move the Books
> part of the page to confluence as well.
>
> > 4) remove the top tabs "Home" and "Docs&Books" and use links in the
> > left column instead
>
> +1
>
> > Finally, we should start to seriously consider to move the
> > Confluence docs into an official Apache server.
>
> We should continue considering it, but I think we aren't ready for
> this yet. Aside from the fact that it will take some time and
> patience to get the new spaces and permissions and such setup, I
> don't think we know yet exactly how we want to organize everything
> (ie how many and which spaces we actually need/want), and I'm also
> not sure yet about the ASF policies or de-facto practices related to
> this, and we need to make sure those will work for us. In other
> words, this is still a pretty new area and I think we actually still
> have a number of complaints and things that may need to be changed,
> and it's nice to have a server that we have control of while we are
> experimenting (well, during the fairly rare occasions that we can
> spend time on this anyway... as it is one of many priorities).
>
> -David
>
>
>

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