Karl, Jonathon,

Please don't forget the "joint work" problem...

Jacques

De : "Eilebrecht, Karl (Key-Work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jonathon,
>
> I'll discuss this with a colleague.
> As I understand first option is to send you
> two archives, one with the original distribution we
> downloaded in January and a second one also including
> our changes.
> Second option is to download the next release (coming these days?),
> merge this and send you the pre-merged archive to do a check.
>
> I've got an account at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ
> Is it correct that I will have to attach a large archive to an issue
> created in advance by yourself or myself?
>
> If you're going to create the initial issue (mentioned in your last
posting)
> please send me the issue number. I'll also put a link on that wiki
page.
>
> Thanks for your support!
>
> Regards.
> Karl
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 23. April 2007 13:38
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: AW: Ofbiz Contribution Proposal
>
> Karl,
>
> It's a great offer on your part too, to let us have those codes!
>
> If you've done a merge with OFBiz trunk on 2007-01-05, that means you
already know how to keep in
> step with OFBiz trunk head! You can actually do what I do, on your
own.
>
> That said, if you still need my help, see the following.
>
> These are what I'll need from you:
>
> a. Exact OFBiz revision you started off from.
>
>     (Try to send me a tarball of that revision so I don't have to do a
SVN
>     download which can be a real pain thanks to the 35MB of 3rd-party
>     libraries. My own SVN doesn't include those 35MB or 3rd-party
binaries; let
>     me know if you want advise on how to cut a lean SVN without
binaries.)
>
> b. Tarball of your latest work you want merged with OFBiz trunk head.
>
> (Please do an "export"; I don't need the .cvs files.)
>
> What I will give you is a tarball of this: OFBiz trunk head (I'll
state revision for our
> reference) married with the latest of your work.
>
> You will have to test this tarball over time, get back to me about
problems, and I'll keep sending
> you fixed tarballs (or deltas, rather). We won't even have to touch
the official OFBiz SVN.
>
> For the initial "review", I will at least make sure it compiles and
runs. You will have to test
> your own functions to see they still work with the latest updates from
OFBiz SVN.
>
> So, here's the summary of the process:
>
> 1. We merge latest of OFBiz with your stuff.
>
> 2. Review A: We make sure your stuff still works.
>
> 3. Review B: We (or community) make sure the general OFBiz stuff still
works.
>
> 4. We submit a patch (diff OFBiz to Your_work) to community.
>
> And then the ball will be in their (committers') court.
>
> Generally, you can pretty much stop at step 2 if all you want is the
latest of OFBiz working with
> your stuff. If you had done your customizations in a
backward-compatible manner, step 3 won't be
> very difficult or even necessary at all.
>
> Jonathon
>
> Eilebrecht, Karl (Key-Work) wrote:
> > Hi Jonathan, hi Chris,
> >
> > thank you for your feedback (and also thank you for stiring up a
hornet's nest ;-) )
> >
> > @Chris: I will try to answer your questions on the wiki page:
> >
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Key-Work+Ofbiz+Contribution+Proposal
> > I think this is more comfortable to retrace.
> >
> > @Jonathan: It's a great offer you made to take a look on our code
and to
> > evtl. merge it! What's the best way to provide the code to you?
> > I'll have to prepare some things before:
> > - for historical reasons we have a CVS repository and I
> > or one of my colleagues will set up an SVN client. Is it more
convenient to
> > you to get an archive for the first review or would you recommend to
> > pump the sources into a repository? (where?)
> > - I already have added the Apache-Header (ASL) to all of the classes
> > we might contribute.
> > - I'll have to replace all tabs in the sources by 4 spaces.
> >
> > The rest I think should be not too complex, our last framework merge
(with trunk) was on 2007-01-05, I don't think there are dramatic low
level interface changes since then.
> >
> > We have already switched to Java 6 but all the classes to be
contributed
> > are compileable with Java 1.4.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Karl
> >
> > BTW: During the next weeks there may be some "communication delays"
because I'll not be in the office all the time. So please don't worry if
an email answer needs some days, thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Chris Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 21. April 2007 08:33
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: Ofbiz Contribution Proposal
> >
> > Hi Karl,
> >
> > I had the opportunity today to quickly read over your introductions.
> > And must say it looks very interesting.  Unfortunately, for my being
> > able to add input to the process, the improvements are in areas as
an
> > OFBiz user, that I take for granted and don't really get my hands
dirty
> > with.
> >
> > I'll need to read over the transaction part again to ask any
> > intelligent questions, so I'll leave that for later.
> >
> > The custom SQL stuff looked very interesting and probably one of the
> > larger areas of benefit as more and more people are getting to the
> > point of locating bottlenecks in their applications.  I was
wondering
> > if there might be some benefit in encapsulating the stored sql
> > statements it in an XML structure to be able to better take
advantage
> > of some META data/commenting that you discussed as well as potential
of
> > some reusability and structuring of those custom statements.
> >
> > Perhaps, I need to reread the logging discussion again, and ask if
this
> > is largely supported among other databases, but can't most of these
> > logging of the sql statements be handled in the database's log, if
> > configured to do so?  I recall a mention that the developer may not
> > have sufficient access to the database server to ascertain the
database
> > logs...is this case where the logging proposal would be more
> > beneficial?
> >
> > Thank you and Key-Work very much for bringing these enhancements
back
> > to the community!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --- "Eilebrecht, Karl  (Key-Work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> we use Ofbiz (mostly the entity engine) for over 2 years now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Last year I had mail contact with David.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He recommended to contribute changes to the Ofbiz Community
regularly
> >> whenever possible and useful.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is a long time since this happened, but we finally convinced our
> >> management to try
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> to contribute some changes and extensions to the Ofbiz community.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I read the FAQ and found out that especially complex changes might
> >> take a long time
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> and we may need some "community attendance".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> David told me to place our proposal at the Ofbiz-WIKI
> >>
> >> and to send a link to this mailing list.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is our "trial balloon" to find out whether our changes and
> >> improvements
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> are welcome and how we could integrate them during the next months.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I.e. the following extensions may also be interesting for other
> >> members
> >>
> >> of the community:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  * Advanced custom SQL integration
> >>
> >>  * advanced sorting (locale, collation, natural sort)
> >>
> >>  * completely refactored TransactionUtil with documentation and
hints
> >>
> >>
> >>  * on-demand "real"-sql-logging for ALL ofbiz statements
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I placed our stuff at
> >>
> >
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Key-Work+Ofbiz+Contribution+Proposal
> >> and hope one of the "Ofbiz gurus" will have a look at the attached
> >> stuff to make a statement.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Karl Eilebrecht
> >>
> >> -- 
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> >>
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> >
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