This is really a confusing theme.
On one hand, as an "informaticien" (it's the word for software engineer here in
France) I would love to see everybody in this world
using an unique sortable date format. I like to see order in things and yes I'm
very puzzled too with all these date formats.
On the other hand it's obvious that we are not missionaries and that people do
like using what they have learnt at school or at
work. In every days life people use date formats to sign check, etc. How can we
expect them to get rid of their common locale habits
using a software ? For them it's only a tool, like a pencil or such...
So I agree with Adrian last paragraph below (I'm not sure of what David means
by "This seems strangely familiar...")
Jacques
De : "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Adrian Crum wrote:
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >> Please step outside of yourself a little bit and realize that your
> >> experiences are not the same as the whole world and that perhaps
> >> you're not in a position to speak for the whole world.
> >
> > lol - That's the position *you've* taken, not me. Daniel and I have
> > expressed a different view than yours, and you're trying to argue that
> > yours is the "best" one. I'm trying to make a point that we have two
> > different requirements, therefore OFBiz should attempt to accomodate
> > both requirements. You're saying that the OFBiz users who have different
> > requirements than yours don't matter, or that they aren't well traveled,
> > or they are confused and don't know what's best for them.
>
> I may just be writing this because I'm damn sick (no solid food for 6 days
> now) and in a bad mood... but I DARE you to back up the
words your speaking on my behalf with text from what I actually wrote,
especially the "You're saying that the OFBiz users who have
different requirements than yours don't matter". If I mis-wrote that badly, I
should just give up now.
>
> > > Also, which systems or
> >> even types of systems have you used?
> >> OFBiz is (or aspires to be!) a global friendly corporate scale ERP
> >> system.
> >
> > {snip]
> >
> >> wrong about the format? What about the poor users (like me!) who
> >> travel and use web sites around the world and always have to guess
> >> about the date format, sometimes getting it wrong and would really
> >> just like to have thing
> >> s be consistent and in a format that is sortable and makes sense so I
> >> can think of time increments largest to smallest?
> >
> > Let's apply the same argument to currency. Why should we support
> > anything other than US dollars? It shouldn't take long for users
> > accustomed to other currency to adapt, right? Why does OFBiz format
> > currency according to locale? Aren't those currency formatting
> > differences "funny local customs" too?
>
> False analogy.
>
> > I think you're making this a bigger issue than it needs to be. All of
> > the date/time formatting has to be run through some kind of conversion
> > method anyway, so why not add to that method a simple if statement that
> > checks a property in general.properties? If the server is set up to use
> > yyyy-mm-dd formatting, then use it. Otherwise, format the date/time
> > according to the user's locale. It doesn't require any additional
> > programming effort. Problem solved. Everybody's happy.
>
> This seems strangely familiar...
>
> -David
>
