+1

Thanks Pierre.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 03:03, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I agree with Pierre and would even extend on his idea to move agreements
> and subscriptions to the order management model.
>
> If a responsibility matrix like RACI would be applied to agreement and
> subscription functions, I think we would see that in most companies
> Responsibility and Accountability for these two processes lie with sales
> and sourcing. I would think that finance would be Consulted and Informed
> about the outcome of these negotiations.
> Finance only get involved at the end of the process.
>
> So yes, I think Pierre has a good point here; this helps to unclutter the
> system and allows to implement more logical process flow.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> On 2019/03/12 12:07:23, Pierre Smits <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Recently (started somewhere in 2018) some activities have been started to
> > enhance the Accounting component (See list of related below).
> >
> > Removing the Accounting-AR and Accounting-AP functionality from the main
> > navigator will reduce the number of applications shown there (and thus
> > enhance usability), but will lead to the same number of menu-items in the
> > main menu of accounting. This menu already has so many menu-items that it
> > will lead to the situation that it will not fit into a single line (in
> > FlatGray, RainbowStone).
> >
> > Therefore, I suggest that functionalities will be removed from the
> > Accounting component and be placed in other (more) suitable components:
> >
> >    1. Agreements
> >    2. FixedAssets
> >
> > *Re 1. Agreements *
> > Agreements are of the same nature as orders (an order is an agreement
> > between two - or more - parties). And are expected to be associated more
> to
> > Sales and Purchasing roles than Accounting roles. In our OFBiz they are
> > also a source for Orders. Also, there seem to be no Gl/Financial
> > transaction functionalities  that are directly related to agreements.
> > Thus it seems more fitting to have the functionalities regarding
> agreements
> > in the OrderMgt component.
> >
> > *Re 2. Fixed Assets*
> > The majority of the functions/services related to Fixed Assets are
> related
> > to the registration of Fixed Assets, maintenance of these registrations,
> > and how the Fixed Assets are used (e.g. Rental - through product/order,
> > and/or work effort). Only a minority of Agreement related
> > functions/services are related to actual accounting functions like Gl
> > transactions, and the most complex thereof is/are related to calculating
> > depreciation.
> > Given that we have a specific - and optional - component related to
> Assets
> > (AssetMaint), I suggest that we move all FixedAsset related object to
> that
> > specific component.
> >
> > Both suggestions will, IMO, lead to a better usability of the Accounting
> > component, better alignment of functions with the expectations of
> adopters,
> > and thus an increase in favourabilty of OFBiz over similar products,
> > potentially leading to more contributors.
> >
> > [1] Move accounting ap and ar to plugin ?
> > <
> https://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/bhxjdt65usz6tdcz?q=%22move+accounting%22+order:date-forward
> >
> > [2] OFBIZ-10552 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-10552>
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
>


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