Okay, I'll just put things where they make the most sense.

-Adrian


--- On Fri, 10/3/08, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: I need a new folder in framework
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:43 PM
> It sounds like you're running into a problem with how
> you're trying to  
> organizing this. In general the framework is organized into
> the higher  
> level tools like the entity engine, service engine,
> widgets, webapp  
> tools, etc. There are many framework features which end up
> having  
> touch points in a lot of these higher level tools. The
> framework is  
> organized by the higher level tools and not by the
> individual features  
> that cut across multiple tools in the framework.
> 
> The calendar stuff you are talking about cuts across
> various higher  
> level tools in the framework, and those tools represent
> different  
> levels in the framework with dependencies between them. If
> you try to  
> put it in a single component instead of organizing it the
> way the rest  
> of the framework is organized you'll run into circular
> dependencies.
> 
> Not to minimize your work (this is a great set of features
> for OFBiz  
> and you're really adding some cool stuff), but in a way
> this is like  
> the status management stuff in the OFBiz Framework, though
> admittedly  
> a more complex case. It wouldn't make much sense to
> have the status  
> stuff in its own component because it is just one of many
> features  
> that is used in various parts of the framework, though
> mostly used in  
> the applications. It can live in the common component
> because none of  
> the lower level components use it. We don't really have
> that luxury  
> with time management stuff. It has lower level pieces that
> will be  
> used by the framework, and higher level pieces that use
> high level  
> parts of the framework for user interaction and such.
> 
> In other words, it is a feature with many touch points in
> the  
> framework and one would expect to see the code for that one
> "feature"  
> spread across various "tool" components.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> 
> > My proposal was to consolidate all calendar-related
> code into one  
> > folder. In other words, move the recurrence stuff from
> service into  
> > the new folder.
> >
> > I picture the entire calendar framework looking
> something like this:
> >
> > 1. A calendar API - get a calendar, query it, etc.
> > 2. Calendar persistence workers - to/from entity
> engine, to/from  
> > iCalendar, etc.
> > 3. Calendar UI workers - Java code to provide
> convenience objects to  
> > UI artifacts
> > 4. Re-usable UI artifacts - ftl files, widgets, etc.
> >
> > -Adrian
> >
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >> But still, why have yet another place where
> calendar related stuff  
> >> exists? Why not put it with the other things
> already there?
> >> -David
> >> On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> >>> Have you taken a look at the jetty and
> geronimo folders? Once the  
> >>> calendar stuff is completely built out, it
> will be larger than  
> >>> those. Its size will probably be more along
> the lines of the bi  
> >>> folder.
> >>>
> >>> -Adrian
> >>>
> >>> David E Jones wrote:
> >>>> Wouldn't it be kind of a small
> component if we restrict it to  
> >>>> just calendar stuff?
> >>>> My opinion on this is to just keep it with
> the other stuff in the  
> >>>> service component, since we already have
> things there. Hopefully  
> >>>> there has been enough discussion about it
> and there is enough  
> >>>> precedent with the recurrence entities
> that people won't have a  
> >>>> hard time with it.
> >>>> Don't worry too much about it. It is
> what it is, and it's okay.
> >>>> -David
> >>>> On Oct 3, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Adrian Crum
> wrote:
> >>>>> As was discussed before, I had a hard
> time deciding where to put  
> >>>>> the new temporal expression stuff
> because of dependencies in the  
> >>>>> build process. I ended up putting it
> in the service component in  
> >>>>> order to get everything to compile
> okay, but seriously, it  
> >>>>> doesn't make sense having it
> there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have more calendar-related classes I
> want to introduce to the  
> >>>>> project, and I will end up having the
> same problem with those. I  
> >>>>> don't want to put everything in
> service. I need a new folder in  
> >>>>> the framework folder.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The calendar classes (recurrence and
> temporal expression) depend  
> >>>>> upon the base and entity components.
> The service component  
> >>>>> depends upon the calendar classes (for
> job scheduling). So, I  
> >>>>> need the new folder to be in between
> entity and service in the  
> >>>>> build process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to add a calendar folder
> to the framework folder. It  
> >>>>> would contain all of the existing
> recurrence classes, the  
> >>>>> temporal expression classes, and the
> yet-to-be-committed classes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wouldn't suggest this if I could
> find some other logical way  
> >>>>> to place things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Adrian


      

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