From: "David E Jones" <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection has a
limited time period, I believe something like 10
years for things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an
incentive to update the copyright date as they release
new editions.
In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people update the
copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
allows to break the 10-70 years ?
Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message for a
specific file in the project, and a copyright
message that represents that output generated by the system (which copyright
is typically customized when the system is
deployed, BTW).
I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If OFBiz is
still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the software
itself !?
The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover generated
output, so the substantial change issue is
satisfied, and in fact it has nothing to do with it because each page
generated is a unique work and not tied to a previous
page.
Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and its
generated outputs ?
In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen is that
people update the copyright date when they make
substantial changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it
is not terribly likely and is a real pain as
another thing on top of dozens already for people to remember.
I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do with this
particular commit) is probably to do a review once
a year of all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and
then update the headers on those (if they haven't
already been updated).
Yes sounds like a good policy
Jacques
-David
On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Also I (we?) have not checked this rule
http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just tried but did
not find
anything obvious...
Some links
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection
Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!
Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?
Jacques
From: "David E Jones" <jone...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/
webcommon/includes/fo/
framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented here do not
copyright the files that the code is in, they
copyright what the code produces, and that is constantly changing so the
dynamic date is appropriate.
-David
On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, jler...@apache.org wrote:
Author: jleroux
Date: Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
New Revision: 772941
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
Log:
See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David Goodenough's advice
on copyright update)
extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for Copyright
(which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
now), is that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted item
gets updated."
Modified:
ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl
ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ footer.ftl
ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ basic-
footer.fo.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic- footer.fo.ftl
Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
-->
<#escape x as x?xml>
<fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font- size="$
{(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
- <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c)
2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
The Apache Software Foundation</fo:block>
+ <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid
black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
Foundation</ fo:block>
<fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
</fo:static-content>
</#escape>
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
<#-- footer -->
<fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
- <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c)
2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
The Apache Software Foundation</fo:block>
+ <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid
black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
Foundation</ fo:block>
<fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
</fo:static-content>
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl
Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
</div>
<br/>
<div class="tabletext" align="center">
- <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")}
The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
+ <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org";
class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
<div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http:// ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext"
target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
a></div>
</div>
<br/>
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/ includes/ Footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl Fri
May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
</div>
<br/>
<div align="center">
- <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software
Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
+ <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
<div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"; target="_blank">Apache
OFBiz</a></div>
</div>
<br/>
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
<p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/";><img
src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
<a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer";><img
src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
@ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
<p>
- ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")} The
Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
+ ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org";
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";
target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include
"../../../runtime/ svninfo.ftl" /></p>
</div>
<#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = = = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May 8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
<div class="footer">
<p align="center">
- <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation -
<a href="http://www.apache.org";
class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
+ <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
<p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"; target="_blank">Apache
OFBiz</a></p>
</p>
<#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>
