Hans,

Jacques gave some examples of where an override is currently used and why it is needed. Could you give us another reason besides "i think an override is an overkill" - like a reason based on a design issue or a real-world problem?

-Adrian

On 9/19/2011 7:55 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
I as sorry i do not see the problem here.....

as long as the properties setting in the trunk will show or hide all
widget comments (so in the trunk NO override) then it is fine.

why? because i think an override is an overkill anyway....

Regards,
Hans


On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 08:43 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes, but I guess we will set widget.verbose in the properties file to true (as 
we do for all defaults to be dev friendly). Will that
suit Hans? Else why do you Hans ask for now overriding in web.xml? For instance 
what for Birt by defaut? Why not keeping the example
in example component commented out? Waht for testtools? Not sure why it's false 
in googlecheckout but I guess there is a reason..

In other word I guess Hans expect widget.verbose in the properties file to be 
false...

Jacques

From: "Adrian Crum"<adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>
Let's see if we can bring this to a happy ending.

If the widget.verbose setting in the properties file is false, then it 
overrides any other setting and all boundary comments are
shut off.

If the widget.verbose setting in the properties file is true, then it follows 
the previous pattern, where true is the default, but
it can be overridden in web.xml and in the context Map.

Will that work for everyone?

-Adrian

On 9/15/2011 5:01 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am going to feel bad if I don't add my 2 cents to this thread :-)
I agree with Jacques that the formatting of boundary comments should be output 
specific (i.e no output for CSV etc...) instead of
always rendering as html comments.
As regards the logic to determine if comments should be enabled or not, I don't 
have a strong opinion because I have always used
this feature in a very rough way (enable all or disable all); however I can 
understand the we may want to avoid that (when
widget.properties.enableBoundaryComments == false) the comments are enabled by 
passing a URL parameter to the screen.

Kind regards,

Jacopo

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Someone I work with suggested:

I have to point out though that I kind of agree with the way David put it in that the 
"false" setting could have a priority,
i.e. it's like in security permissions where "deny" has precedence over allow, 
so if you set it in widget.properties to false
then you're sure comments will never be enabled anywhere... security-wise it 
makes sense despite the comment about qc...

Maybe something like this? (compromise between the two)

if (widget.properties.enableBoundaryComments == false
        || web.xml.enableBoundaryComments == false
        || context.enableBoundaryComments == false) {
    return false;
} else { // This is the solution Scott wrote, but use overriding settings only 
for null and true values
    if (context.enableBoundaryComments != null) return 
context.enableBoundaryComments;
    if (web.xml.enableBoundaryComments != null) return 
web.xml.enableBoundaryComments;
    if (widget.properties.enableBoundaryComments != null) return 
widget.properties.enableBoundaryComments;
    return false;
}

Could probably rewrite that to be less redundant but you get the idea...

jleroux: I quickly reformated my own way ;o), It seems a good idea to me, what 
do you think?

Also my colleague also wrote:
Only thing I have to add is that I didn't see anyone address the issue that 
HTML comments are outputted for CSV (because there's
no<csv>   element and you have to use<html>) element. No matter what 
widget.verbose is set to, there should never be HTmL
comments outputted for csv. so this only addresses half the bugs...

We have no patches so far...

Jacques



Dimitri Unruh wrote:
+1


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Am 13.09.2011 um 14:35 schrieb "Bilgin Ibryam"<bibr...@gmail.com>:

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Adrian Crum
<adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>   wrote:
Thanks Scott - those are my feelings exactly.

I like the way the design worked previously, and changing it because a user
might accidentally leave the comments enabled in production seems silly.
That is a user's QC problem, not a widget comment design problem.

-Adrian

+ 1

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