Re: Incorrect use of eca for create/updateShipment

[Jacques Le Roux]

Yes, I was speaking about the service level. I don't think anybody has a pb 
with the EECAs?

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>

we actually have two levels.
you have the entity level, similar to the Triggered procedures used in
Databases where any action of the data is evaluated, even at creation
time. the Difference is that most validation is Done the thing is
Validation can be done at the Entity engine level, So most EECA are used
after the creation of the data.

The other level is business flow. the decision to use SOA and/or ECA is
a Design call and will very with the Designer background. I have brokend
it down that porcesses that over many business flows will not change are
SOA. what was one defined as hooks in C code would the the ECA

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 11/4/2011 2:59 PM:

I think that if we want to discuss this seriously we need to have 1st a
clear and complete workflow of ECA use in OFBiz.

IMO, the Event Driven Architecture (EDA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_architecture, is well adapted
to complete SOA
(Service Oriented Architecture). But one Criticism of Event Driven
Programming
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming#Criticism_and_best_practice)
apply: it can lead programmers to create
difficult to extend and, especially, excessively complex application
code. So it's rather a matter of use and abuse.

In other words, I'd be ok to remove abuse but not use. In some cases
it's very convenient...

Jacques

J. Eckard wrote:

I spend a great deal of time reading through existing OFBiz codebases
to get a handle on process implementations, an experience
that feels much more tedious and frustrating than it should.

One of the things that contributes to the difficulty is the practice
of using EECAs and / or SECAs to orchestrate a basic process
with smaller, specialized services.

I was hesitant to bring this up because I don't have any concrete
suggestions or guidelines for improvements - its more of a
nagging feeling I get when I see ECAs that are not very generic or
used outside of the orchestration, or ECAs that perform
crucial tasks that you would never want to disable or remove.

Joe

On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

Actually, what I recommended was a discussion on using/removing ECAs
in general - not this specific case.

-Adrian

On 11/3/2011 5:15 PM, ki...@objectedge.com wrote:

Hello Friends,

In case of createShipment, during commit, eca rules are fired. These
invoke updateShipment(i.e: even before commit on createShipment is
complete). Update Shipment is called multiple times (You can view
the log
during quickShipOrder/quickDropShipOrder). Also, these rules are
fired in
incorrect order. These rules are updating the same shipment that is
being
committed by the original method. I believe this is incorrect.

I have verified the functionality of quickShipOrder/quickDropShipOrder
after the changes. Let me know if there are any testcases that I
need to
run. Please take a look at email thread for more details. Let me
know if
you have questions and concerns. If we integrate the change sooner,
we can
avoid merge conflicts.

PS: Thanks Adrian and Anil for your vote of confidence. As per your
recommendation, I am posting this to dev mailing list.

Regards,
Kiran Gawde

Senior Software Architect
Object Edge Inc
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From:   "Adrian Crum (Commented) (JIRA)"<j...@apache.org>
To:     ki...@objectedge.com
Date:   11/03/2011 02:04 AM
Subject:        [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4501) Incorrect use of eca
for
create/updateShipment




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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-4501:
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Kiran,

Thank you for working on this. I agree that the overuse of ECAs causes
problems and makes the services difficult to troubleshoot. But removing
them is going to be a tough sell because many in the community see
it as a
feature - they see it as a crude form of a workflow implementation.
I have
added my vote to this issue because I believe a lot of the ECAs
should go
away. It might help your cause to start a discussion on the dev mailing
list and see if you can rally some more support for ECA removal.

Incorrect use of eca for create/updateShipment
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                Key: OFBIZ-4501
                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4501
            Project: OFBiz
         Issue Type: Bug
         Components: product
   Affects Versions: Release Branch 11.04, SVN trunk
           Reporter: Kiran Gawde
        Attachments:

OFBIZ-4501-ModifiedCreateUpdateShipmentService.patch,
OFBIZ-4501-ModifiedCreateUpdateShipmentService.patch,
OFBIZ-4501-ShipmentServiceXml.patch,
OFBIZ-4501-ShipmentServiceXml.patch,
OFBIZ-4501-ShipmentServiceXml.patch

createShipment service doesn't populate the facility and order info
into

shipment. Instead it is handled by eca rules. This is wrong. ECA rules
should be used to update other objects or cause other actions and not
update the object that is being committed. This makes it difficult to
traverse the code. Can also cause bugs that are difficult troubleshoot.
e.g: In this case, facilities are populated in shipment by method
setShipmentSettingsFromPrimaryOrder, but eca rule checking for
originFacilityId gets executed before it is populated. Following eca
rules
should be removed and instead the code should be added to
create/updateshipment methods.

    <!-- if new originFacilityId or destinationFacilityId, get
settings

from facilities -->

    <eca service="createShipment" event="commit">
        <condition field-name="originFacilityId"

operator="is-not-empty"/>

        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromFacilities"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>
    <eca service="createShipment" event="commit">
        <condition field-name="destinationFacilityId"

operator="is-not-empty"/>

        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromFacilities"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>
    <eca service="updateShipment" event="commit">
        <condition-field field-name="originFacilityId"

operator="not-equals" to-field-name="oldOriginFacilityId"/>

        <condition field-name="originFacilityId"

operator="is-not-empty"/>

        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromFacilities"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>
    <eca service="updateShipment" event="commit">
        <condition-field field-name="destinationFacilityId"

operator="not-equals" to-field-name="oldDestinationFacilityId"/>

        <condition field-name="destinationFacilityId"

operator="is-not-empty"/>

        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromFacilities"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>
    <!-- if new primaryOrderId, get settings from order -->
    <eca service="createShipment" event="commit">
        <condition field-name="primaryOrderId"
operator="is-not-empty"/>
        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromPrimaryOrder"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>
    <eca service="updateShipment" event="commit">
        <condition-field field-name="primaryOrderId"

operator="not-equals" to-field-name="oldPrimaryOrderId"/>

        <condition field-name="primaryOrderId"
operator="is-not-empty"/>
        <action service="setShipmentSettingsFromPrimaryOrder"

mode="sync"/>

    </eca>

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