So, we would remove the specialpurpose folder from the release branch? That sounds fine to me.

-Adrian

On 7/9/2012 1:55 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Adrian,

all you proposed sounds good to me, I like it.
What about the idea of not including specialpurpose in the releases? I think it 
is important because it simplifies the task of reviewing the code that we 
officially publish when we do a release; releasing separately will help to 
focus on a smaller amount of code every time we do a release.

Jacopo

On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

I like the general direction, but I think the steps are overly complicated. I 
would prefer to keep the specialpurpose folder name, and keep its components in 
the build scripts and test runs. This is important because higher level 
component tests can reveal problems in the core logic (those tests were 
invaluable during the Mini-language overhaul).

So, let's move stuff into specialpurpose, then move bits of specialpurpose out 
of the project. When the specialpurpose folder is empty, we can remove it.

The eCommerce component could be moved to the applications folder.

I would be interested in spinning off the Asset Maintenance component to a separate 
project. Maybe we could use that as a test run of the "extras" concept.

-Adrian


On 7/9/2012 11:21 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
A few months ago we discussed about moving out of OFBiz some components from framework 
and specialpurpose and introduce the concept of "OFBiz Extras" projects, 
managed out of the ASF infrastructure.
I still think it is a good way to go, especially because it will help to grow 
an ecosystem of projects not necessarily licensed under the same license.
However I understand that this will take time to adjust and a lot of work to setup communities 
etc... this is the main reason I have prepared this proposal for an intermediate step: instead of 
moving out the components we can move them to the "specialpurpose" folder, rename it into 
"extras" and exclude the folder from the ootb build/deployment and from releases.

Some more details:
* the extras folder will not be included in build scripts, test runs, 
deployments; in order to build/run/test an extras component, it will have to be 
dropped into the hot-deploy folder
* extras components are not deployed on our demo instances, or included in 
automated builds; no dependency on them (links, documentation etc...) will 
exist in the OFBiz codebase
* some of the components in the extras folder could be experimental; each 
component should contain a README file with all the information required to 
deploy it successfully
* a separate LICENSE file will be maintained in the extras folder
* extras folder will not be part of the future OFBiz releases; we will instead release 
all the extras components in one package as "Apache OFBiz Extras" let's say 
every year
* we may consider to move back ecommerce from specialpurpose/extras to 
applications, at least the core ecommerce features

Considering that the components are either experimental or very specific, it will be easier to get commit 
rights for one or more of the "extras" components; new committers will be formally "OFBiz 
committers" (i.e. in theory they will have right to change all code in svn, including ofbiz code) but 
they will be asked to limit their field of action to the components they have been voted for; it will be 
based on trust rather than commit rights; a formal vote will be still required to authorize the committer to 
other components; the fact that a committer will still have the ability to change all code could be an 
advantage if we allow them to commit code under the explicit permission of another senior committer on 
specific case; for example a senior committer could say "I have committed r123456 and this should be 
backported to 12.04 and 11.04 but I don't have time; is there a committer available to help to backport and 
test the feature?"
This strategy, to have committers that are asked to not commit out of specific 
components, or areas (we could, for example, have a committer allowed to only 
work on ui labels), could even be considered for old committers (whose commit 
history shows lack of quality)... but this is probably topic for another day.

In short, this approach should help in a few areas: smaller core code base, 
greater community of specialized committers, less load on existing committers.

What do you think?

Jacopo






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