I had a look at Rivets and BackboneJs and now I understand what you mean.  
I started from there 
http://www.gianlucaguarini.com/blog/rivet-js-backbone-js-made-my-code-awesome/

Are there not too much issues with different browsers versions implementations 
of Javascript?
This seems freightening to me http://kangax.github.io/es5-compat-table/

Jacques

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:29 PM, [email protected] wrote
> Thanks Ean,
> 
> I'd have expected a more elaborate comment from you. Wrong direction or 
> simply Sunday (comprehensible and recommended) lazyness?
> Also if possible please keep comments in Jira ;) 
> 
> Maybe your experience using Rivets and BackboneJ, and why (apart the size) 
> you preferred them above AngularJS which seems
> "mainstream" now. 
> Maybe because you are favoring json everywhere or like David says too much 
> tag attributes (which makes me think about too much
> annotations in Java 7-8)? Also what are your thoughts about form widgets? 
> 
> I have never used Bootstrap from scratch myself (nor SASS or less), but I 
> faced them in projects and I must say I have still a
> lot to learn. 
> 
> What do you think about 
> http://notes.gross.is/post/43508972396/please-stop-using-twitter-bootstrap ?
> 
> Also unrelated but while at it, has anyone tried to use 
> https://jersey.java.net/ with OFBiz?
> 
> Jacques
> 
> On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:53 PM, [email protected] wrote
>> http://getbootstrap.com/
>> 
>> ----- "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5040?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>> ]
>>> 
>>> Jacques Le Roux reassigned OFBIZ-5040:
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> 
>>>     Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>>> 
>>>> Backend widget & application HTML clean-up
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>                 Key: OFBIZ-5040
>>>>                 URL:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5040
>>>>             Project: OFBiz
>>>>          Issue Type: Improvement
>>>>          Components: ALL APPLICATIONS
>>>>            Reporter: Paul Piper
>>>>            Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>>>>              Labels: html, webapp, widget, widgetrendering
>>>> 
>>>> I am sure that this is a common thing to know: the current
>>> backoffice application relies heavily on widgets. This is good, but
>>> the current standard-html-structure is not flexible enough and often
>>> lacks proper w3c implementation.
>>>> To make matters worse, you can often find applications avoiding
>>> widgets at all and rather overriding the standards with custom ftl
>>> implementations. It is these customizations that break the html on
>>> numerous screens and make it difficult, if not tedious to create new
>>> themes for the backoffice.
>>>> This task is hence to:
>>>> * Find a consensus on a new widget standard
>>>> * Go over each of the application ftls and convert these to the new 
>>>> standard
>>>> * Recreate the themes and simplify/clean-up special rules
>>>> Since redoing the theme is a rather large task, we should consider
>>> to add an additional css for now which stylises the replacement html
>>> instead of working with the old.

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