HI Jacques

the following is a copy paste from my Confluence profile:

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Full Name  Ivan Cauchi
Email         falcon...@gmail.com

my login is falconict.

regards
Ivan

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Jacques Le Roux
<jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Yvan,
>
> I did not find your username in confluence I tried falcon...@gmail.com, then
> Yvan and Cauchi (Confluence has a nice autocompleter research)
> Maybe you used another email address?
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 03/11/2014 08:57, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd a écrit :
>
>> A patch has been uploaded and would welcome any committer to review
>> and release into trunk.
>>
>> I have created a profile on Confluence, with my email address as an
>> account.  Would anyone with sufficient rights grant me contributor
>> privileges so I can insert the description of the new functionality
>> there?
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Ivan
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd <falcon...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> JIRA 5793 opened.
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd <falcon...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @Jacopo
>>>>
>>>> Ok.  We'll use expirationCompletedDate.  It's less cumbersome.
>>>>
>>>> @Jacques
>>>>
>>>> thanks for pointing out the location of subscription info on Confluence.
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> Ivan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Jacques Le Roux
>>>> <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Subscription
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 01/10/2014 15:24, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for considering it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>> <falcon...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok.  Yes I use my name on the JIRA account.  I've never used
>>>>>>> Confluence, but I'll consider updating the documentation when the
>>>>>>> patch is complete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Pierre Smits
>>>>>>> <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ivan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User Id's  are used in JIRA and Confluence (the prefered wiki tool
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ASF) for documentation purposes. If you're also considering updating
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> documentation regarding subscriptions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>> <falcon...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Jacopo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The thruDate is used to establish when the subscription is
>>>>>>>>> scheduled
>>>>>>>>> to expire, so cannot also be used to determine that the service has
>>>>>>>>> run, which can happen whenever it is scheduled.  Hence the need for
>>>>>>>>> another field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Pierre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where is the registration id used?  On the dev list or JIRA?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>> <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ivan,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In order to recognise you as the contributor (or any other of your
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> company)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it is suggest to use a personal email address and/or registration
>>>>>>>>>> id
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stead of company credentials.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> falcon...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Pierre.  We'll open a JIRA case and start working on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> patch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Pierre Smits <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ivan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you of describing the issue and a possible solution
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> accompanied
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> test cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any improvement to the code base is a good idea. And if you'll
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> submit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> patch in JIRA I will do my best to review it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Falcon ICT Pty Ltd <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> falcon...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Background
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recenlty, the trunk version of OFBiz was augmented with a new
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> called runServiceUponSubscriptionExpiry through JIRA5333. This
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is scheduled to run, using the demo data, once a day. Its
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> algorithm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks up all subscriptions which have expired, which is defined
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current time being greater than the sum of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> subscription.thruDate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscription.gracePeriodOnExpiry, and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subscription.automaticExtend is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> false. For all such subscriptions, the service runs any service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SubscriptionResource.serviceNameOnExpiry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This provides users of the OFBiz framework who provide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> subscriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to their customers using the framework, to trigger an external
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprovisioning action when a subscription expires, implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service whose name is inserted into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SubscriptionResource.serviceNameOnExpiry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, the service mentioned in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SubscriptionResource.serviceNameOnExpiry is run every time the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> master
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service runServiceUponSubscriptionExpiry goes through its
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> algorithm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (once a day in the demo data). Typically, for subscriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> require a deprovisioning action when the subscription expired,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only one deprovisioning action would be required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To resolve this, it is being proposed to make the following
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> adjustments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) augment the OFBiz data model with the following new field:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscription.serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) modify the algorithm of runServiceUponSubscriptionExpiry to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> check whether the expiry service has already run, by checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate is null.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - if serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate is null (and the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfied), run the service in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SubscriptionResource.serviceNameOnExpiry and update the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> date/time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - if serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate is not null, skip the expired
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscription and move to the next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - create a new subscription through OFBiz with demo data
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - modify the subscription's thru date and gracePeriodOnExpiry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of their addition is in the past of the system date
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - verify that Subscription. serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate is empty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - either wait for the daily running of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> runServiceUponSubscriptionExpiry, or trigger the service
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - verify that the log file contains a reference to the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> subscription
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> having expired, and that Subscription.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains the date/time the service was run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - either wait for the daily running of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> runServiceUponSubscriptionExpiry, or trigger the service
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a second time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - verify that the log file does not contain a reference to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscription having expired, and that Subscription.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviceNameOnExpiryRunDate still contains the date/time the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to ask:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) is there agreement in the developer community that this is a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) We propose to develop the patch and release it to the OFBiz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.  Would any committer be interested in promoting into
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we provide the patch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> phone: +61 414208449
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> phone: +61 414208449
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> phone: +61 414208449
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>>> Director
>>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>>
>>>> phone: +61 414208449
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ivan Cauchi
>>> Director
>>> Falcon ICT Pty Ltd
>>>
>>> phone: +61 414208449
>>
>>
>>
>



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