That's a good idea to start Gavin! I will try that 1st. I already looked at 
their documentation but only cursorily

Jacques

Le 27/10/2015 14:02, Gavin Mabie a écrit :
Let's bench mark against docs from the competition - like Open Bravo,
Adempiere etc.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com
wrote:
+1
As a newcomer, the docs were a big turn-off.

Sharan is doing a great job of organizing it.
I hope that we can do something with the Framework that makes a cleaner
separation between the business application and the plumbing.

Ron


On 27/10/2015 4:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hi All,

Don't take this too seriously, it's only a thought that crossed my mind
while reading this snippet at https://db.apache.org/newproject.html

<<Well-documented products tend to build stronger communities than
products that rely [on] source code and JavaDocs alone.>>

And it's is too long for a Tweet :)

I know the OFBiz scope is very large, we are not focused on a topic like
the DB project. So I believe it's harder to well organise our
documentation, or rather, like the project, its scope is large (and
sometimes confusing with not clear borders between topics)

But I think we also rely too much on examples in code. And documentation
in XSDs is not enough (a contrario, see the excellent work by Adrian at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Mini+Language+-+minilang+-+simple-method+-+Reference)
because this ways (code including properties files, JavaDocs, XSDs) we
don't cover the business cases and other aspects. In other simpler words,
it's not holistic!

I know, I do that myself everyday, and for a long time. I also believe
the way I approach code in a new area in OFBiz (there are much) is often by
analogy. To be frank in some case it's even kinda Cargo Cult (don't get me
wrong I have nothing against real Cargo Cult ;))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cargo+Cult&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIpOyj7ZbiyAIVgtQaCh1KygbV&biw=2144&bih=839&dpr=0.9

The documentation in wiki has improved so far. But, as the DB project
well stresses, if we could improve it more the OFBiz project would be taken
more seriously and we would get more attention. I will try to get into this
direction in the near future...

Thanks for your attention so far :)

Jacques


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