Hi Jacques,

Very useful and interesting. The material seems to be give even more value
for obsessive compulsive people like me :) Thank you.

Taher Alkhateeb

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> For the moment I'm reading (one page a day :D)
> http://www.howtomakesenseofanymess.com/ as suggested by Sharan
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 28/10/2015 à 19:31, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> That's a good idea to start Gavin! I will try that 1st. I already looked
>> at their documentation but only cursorily
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 27/10/2015 14:02, Gavin Mabie a écrit :
>>
>>> Let's bench mark against docs from the competition - like Open Bravo,
>>> Adempiere etc.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>> As a newcomer, the docs were a big turn-off.
>>>>
>>>> Sharan is doing a great job of organizing it.
>>>> I hope that we can do something with the Framework that makes a cleaner
>>>> separation between the business application and the plumbing.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/10/2015 4:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't take this too seriously, it's only a thought that crossed my mind
>>>>> while reading this snippet at https://db.apache.org/newproject.html
>>>>>
>>>>> <<Well-documented products tend to build stronger communities than
>>>>> products that rely [on] source code and JavaDocs alone.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And it's is too long for a Tweet :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the OFBiz scope is very large, we are not focused on a topic
>>>>> like
>>>>> the DB project. So I believe it's harder to well organise our
>>>>> documentation, or rather, like the project, its scope is large (and
>>>>> sometimes confusing with not clear borders between topics)
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think we also rely too much on examples in code. And
>>>>> documentation
>>>>> in XSDs is not enough (a contrario, see the excellent work by Adrian at
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Mini+Language+-+minilang+-+simple-method+-+Reference
>>>>> )
>>>>> because this ways (code including properties files, JavaDocs, XSDs) we
>>>>> don't cover the business cases and other aspects. In other simpler
>>>>> words,
>>>>> it's not holistic!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, I do that myself everyday, and for a long time. I also believe
>>>>> the way I approach code in a new area in OFBiz (there are much) is
>>>>> often by
>>>>> analogy. To be frank in some case it's even kinda Cargo Cult (don't
>>>>> get me
>>>>> wrong I have nothing against real Cargo Cult ;))
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Cargo+Cult&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIpOyj7ZbiyAIVgtQaCh1KygbV&biw=2144&bih=839&dpr=0.9
>>>>>
>>>>> The documentation in wiki has improved so far. But, as the DB project
>>>>> well stresses, if we could improve it more the OFBiz project would be
>>>>> taken
>>>>> more seriously and we would get more attention. I will try to get into
>>>>> this
>>>>> direction in the near future...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your attention so far :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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