I see, if that is the case then we should continue disabling them but do so
in the components' own build.gradle file to make the build cleaner.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> Hmmm... not sure about this because jars with incompatible licenses should
> not be required to build a release.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Actually, I think you can also enable these files and declare whatever
> > proprietary libraries you need since they will be pulled from an external
> > repository, please correct me if I'm wrong anyone I'm not the best guy to
> > speak legalese in here.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Mridul, Everyone,
> > >
> > > Now that we have a stable running build, perhaps it's time to move
> > forward
> > > with this discussion? All the excluded java files are listed in the
> > master
> > > build.gradle. If you move them to specialpurpose we can figure out a
> > simple
> > > solution to hide these exclusions away from the master build script and
> > > declare them in the components build.gradle files away from the
> framework
> > > and applications.
> > >
> > > Do we have an available JIRA? Are you still interested in applying the
> > > work?
> > >
> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This needs to be carefully reviewed indeed (I did not yet)
> > >>
> > >> Jacques
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Le 18/06/2016 à 13:00, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>> I agree that there are common patterns. And the common patterns
> should
> > be
> > >>> in the base component, to enable the payment and shipment solution
> > >>> integrations. These integration solutions should be optional when
> > >>> implementing an OFBiz setup.
> > >>>
> > >>> An example please evaluate the MultiSafepay integration component I
> > >>> created.
> > >>> See for a high level description:
> > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/products/p_omultisafepay.
> > >>> Visit for the code: https://github.com/ORRTIZ/omultisafepay
> > >>> And for the implementation instruction:
> > >>> https://github.com/ORRTIZ/omultisafepay/wiki/How-to-implement
> > >>>
> > >>> This component applies the common patterns, without any new entities
> to
> > >>> be
> > >>> created, and a minimal adjustment to the e-commerce and the product
> > >>> component.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>
> > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>
> > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Mridul Pathak <
> > >>> mridul.pat...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Creating payment/shipping/tax solution specific components would
> > >>>> introduce
> > >>>> 17 new components to specialpurpose and that doesn’t seems like a
> > >>>> favorable
> > >>>> approach.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> These integrations usually share a common code pattern and in longer
> > >>>> vision we could possibly implement payment/shipping integration
> > >>>> frameworks
> > >>>> with a lot lesser and cleaner code that makes introducing new
> payment
> > >>>> processor or shipping solution a lot easier with the help of
> > >>>> configurations
> > >>>> and little code. Most of us seems to be fine with three new
> components
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> payment processor, tax integration and shipping integration and that
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> leave us room for further refactoring.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think many on this thread has already given approval for three new
> > >>>> components so that’s the way we should go.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Thanks & Regards,
> > >>>> Mridul Pathak
> > >>>> HotWax Systems
> > >>>> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Moving all 3rd party related integrations solutions from
> accounting,
> > >>>>> product and order into 1 special purpose component makes is worse
> to
> > >>>>> maintain. Moving those from accounting into one in special purpose,
> > >>>>> those
> > >>>>> from product into one and those from order into another just shifts
> > the
> > >>>>> problem from the base applications stack to a another stack, which
> is
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> complexity that results from the total being being bigger than the
> > sum
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> its parts.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I understand and accept that there might be adopters of old release
> > out
> > >>>>> there that are still on those old releases and use some (or all) of
> > the
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> 3rd
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> party integrations. But I believe that breaking these sets up in to
> > the
> > >>>>> smaller components not only makes maintenance less complex but also
> > >>>>> increases the appeal of OFBiz (visavis completeness and
> flexibility).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Given
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> that this is in the 'improvement' section of what we do, I
> understand
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> that,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> it won't be back ported to running release branches. So, there is a
> > >>>>> means
> > >>>>> to communicate up front and prepare the adopters who want to
> migrate.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Therefore I suggest we split the 3rd party payment solutions
> > >>>>> integrations
> > >>>>> up into:
> > >>>>> /specialpurpose/paypay
> > >>>>> /specialpurpose/orbital
> > >>>>> etc
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and the 3rd party shipment solutions integrations up into:
> > >>>>> /specialpurpose/dhl
> > >>>>> /specialpurpose/fedex
> > >>>>> /specialpurpose/ups
> > >>>>> etc
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and the same for the other 3rd party solutions integrations.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> After all, these functionalities should be optionals, not
> mandatories
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> from
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> an integration perspective. Splitting them up will also bring the
> > >>>>> benefit
> > >>>>> of easier maintenance, bringing in contributors who are experienced
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>> that piece of software and if adoption/use is 0, an easier path to
> > the
> > >>>>> attic (in stead of waiting and waiting untill all goes to being
> > unused.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bringing this to separate components in special purpose doesn't
> mean
> > we
> > >>>>> need to bring those into the build process (as long as they are not
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> fixed).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Leaving them out of the component-load.xml file (or commented out)
> > will
> > >>>>> avoid that, and give adopters an opt-in choice.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So to recap:
> > >>>>> +1 on the move out of the base applications stack
> > >>>>> -1 on the move in catch-all components in another stack.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> +1 thank you for your dedication and thinking of this
> > >>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016 8:55 PM, "Mridul Pathak" <
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> mridul.pat...@hotwaxsystems.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Taher,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I was just trying to suggest that we will have to create two
> > >>>>>>> components
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> specialpurpose, one for payment processor related functionality
> and
> > >>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> tax related functionality and the reason behind it. Which means
> we
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> should
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> probably drop the idea of introducing a directory named “reference”
> > and
> > >>>>>>> instead create two separate components.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Our main goal here is to move these files out of core
> applications
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> most of us are fine with moving it to specialpurpose. I think we
> > can
> > >>>>>>> conclude our approach as most of us seems fine with having two
> > >>>>>>> separate
> > >>>>>>> components in specialpurpose which was the original suggestion as
> > >>>>>>> well.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
> > >>>>>>> Mridul Pathak
> > >>>>>>> HotWax Systems
> > >>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Mridul,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thank you for the detailed and well thought out feedback.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I am a little confused however, what is the point you are trying
> > to
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> state?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The only point from my previous email was to suggest avoiding
> > >>>>>>>> creating
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> directory called reference in the top level ofbiz directory and
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> instead
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> keep it in /specialpurpose. If you want to keep it in
> > >>>>>>>> specialpurpose/reference, fine, if you want to keep it in
> > >>>>>>>> specialpurpose/your-component-here fine, if you want to do
> > anything
> > >>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>> specialpurpose then also fine My point was simply to suggest
> > >>>>>>>> steering
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> away
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> from ofbiz top level directory.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Mridul Pathak <
> > >>>>>>>> mridul.pat...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Taher,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Payment integration files in accounting/thirdparty are not just
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> unused
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> files and all of it is not dead code. There is the whole
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> functionality
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> built around those files which is very crucial to production
> delivery
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> order management or ecommerce on top of OFBiz. There are many
> > service
> > >>>>>>>>> definition files whose implementation is written in these java
> > >>>>>>>>> files.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Some
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> examples are,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/servicedef/services_authorizedotnet.xml
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/servicedef/services_clearcommerce.xml
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/servicedef/services_cybersource.xml
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/servicedef/services_orbital.xml
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/servicedef/services_paypal.xml
> > >>>>>>>>> etc.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Along with that, many of the configurations needed to use these
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> payment
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> solutions are maintained in accounting/config/payment.properties
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> file. A
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ProductStore in OFBiz as well can be configures to use on of
> these
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> payment
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> processors.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Also, these file are intentionally excluded from compile
> process,
> > >>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> be included if you want to use/deliver one of these existing
> > payment
> > >>>>>>>>> solution in OFBiz in production. Following is the code snippet
> > from
> > >>>>>>>>> accounting/build.xml,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> <target name="init">
> > >>>>>>>>>    <condition property="verisign-exclude"
> > >>>>>>>>> value="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/verisign/**">
> > >>>>>>>>>        <not><available file="lib/payflow.jar"/></not>
> > >>>>>>>>>    </condition>
> > >>>>>>>>>    <patternset id="src.exc.set">
> > >>>>>>>>>        <!-- exclude the payment processor packages; comment
> this
> > >>>>>>>>> out
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> not exclude if you have libs -->
> > >>>>>>>>>        <exclude name="${verisign-exclude}"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>        <exclude
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> name="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/cybersource/**"/>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>        <exclude
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > name="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/paypal/PayPalServices.java"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>        <exclude
> > name="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/orbital/**"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>        <exclude
> > >>>>>>>>> name="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/securepay/**"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>        <exclude
> name="org/ofbiz/accounting/thirdparty/ideal/**"/>
> > >>>>>>>>>    </patternset>
> > >>>>>>>>> </target>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> It clearly mentions that if you have required libraries for any
> > of
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> third party payment solutions, you could comment out the exclusion.
> > >>>>>>>>> Usually, when someone needs to use one of the available payment
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> processor,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> they download the required jar and place it in accounting/lib
> > >>>>>>>>> folder,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> make
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> the needed changes in build.xml and they are ready to use the
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> respective
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> payment solution.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> We have used one or the other payment processors in OFBiz many
> a
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> times
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> deliver payment solutions as part of the software. I believe
> there
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> many
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> application users and service providers who might be using the
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> payment
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> processor functionality that comes with OFBiz OOTB.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> So, it’s not just about moving some files from core
> applications
> > to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> some
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> other directory because they seems to be unused, the whole
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> functionality
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> needs to be moved so that current or future users of these
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> functionalities
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> can still use it. And that is the reason if we create a new
> > special
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> purpose
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> component it will help us to keep the functionality intact and
> > >>>>>>>>> usable
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the same time separate it from core applications. That would also
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> enable us
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> to keep such components out of component-load.xml and
> > >>>>>>>>> specialpurpose/build.xml. A README file would help the user
> with
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> directions
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> to use it.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Additionally, I feel that most of these files may need to be
> > >>>>>>>>> upgraded
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> needs code refactoring probably because they might usually be
> left
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> out
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> they do not compile by default with OFBiz.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>> Mridul Pathak
> > >>>>>>>>> HotWax Systems
> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hey Folks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would prefer to keep dead code away from the top level OFBiz
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> directory.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If you keep it there then you make it _closer_ to the framework!
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I don't see a problem with keeping it in
> specialpurpose!
> > >>>>>>>>>> You
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> not creating a component, you are just creating a folder called
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> reference
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> and adding stuff to it, and you are not adding it to
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> component-load.xml?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why is it that you cannot add it there?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Taher Alkhateeb
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Mridul Pathak <
> > >>>>>>>>>> mridul.pat...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Introducing new directory “reference” seems reasonable
> approach
> > to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> me
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> it is a combined solution to everyone’s views.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Mridul Pathak
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager
> > >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Systems
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Divesh,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/06/2016 à 13:38, Divesh Dutta a écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3- In the case of non-compiling / broken / missing
> > dependencies
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> highlight this issue somewhere visible to the programmer
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (README,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> whatever). Why is this important? Because we need to tell our
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> scripts
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and our classpath settings to ignore these files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason why I suggested to keep all of them in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /reference/each-component-name-here is to tell the
> build
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ignore
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all Java files found in /specialpurpose/reference. If you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> break it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> up into multiple components, then I need to ignore the files
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> each
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> component by hand which makes the build script more complex
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> more prone
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to human error and it would add to the confusion.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree and I think your initial proposition ("How
> about
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference/paymentext and
> > reference/whatever-else-you-want?")
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> clearly understood by Pierre and maybe not Divesh. Pierre,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Divesh?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Actually Jacques,  we cannot create component like
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> specialpurpose/reference/paymentext . Other way can be we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> introduce
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> new
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> directory "reference" in parallel to specialpurpose,
> > applications
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> framework . Do you mean to do that ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You are right, and following Taher's idea I missed this
> point,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> seems
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> to me that your proposition of <<introducing a new directory
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> "reference" in
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> parallel to specialpurpose, applications ,framework>> is the
> > best
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> so
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> far.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It could be also that Taher anticipated on the work (I know)
> > he
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> do
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> on refactoring the build system and this possibility will be
> open
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> "soon",
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Taher?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also as Mridul put it, and you agreed, the "shipping
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration/s"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "doesn’t have the compilation or library reference issues"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> in its
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> own independent component/s (ie not under /reference), same
> > for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> stuff
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> with the same status, if exist.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, shipping integration can be under special
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> specialpurpose/shippingIntegratio.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, nobrainer :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Divesh Dutta.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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