Hi Taher,

When you're saying 'Everything like repositories and adding and removing is
already there', are you saying it is in your proposal regarding the plugin
solution? Which is spread over a lot of dev mail postings? I am a bit lost
as well.

I suggest to capture all regarding your proposal in a wiki page. That way
contributors can add comments to it on the page, and if accepted go into
the next revision of the page. And if the community feel the proposals is
complete, and all potential issues and risks are addressed (also planning
wise), we have something tangible to start planning for realisation. And we
should opt for low-hanging fruit first, instead of only considering a
complex construct, that is intended to catch all kinds of scenarios.

Best regards,


Pierre Smits

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On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> I did not see anything of your above recommendations that is not compatible
> with the plugin system. Everything like repositories and adding and
> removing is already there. The only difference I notice is your
> recommandation to not have component-load.xml so people just download and
> go. However this might have some drawbacks such as being unable to revert
> installation tasks or activating deactivating components on demand.
>
> Anyway, this discussion was too long and I got lost in some parts of it. I
> will work on a new proposal with a supporting patch soon as the building
> block with something more concrete.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> On Aug 2, 2016 8:22 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd recommend an improvement or task Jira to remember and share the work
> ;)
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > Le 02/08/2016 à 16:37, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi Pierre, All
> >>
> >> I was looking through the code and with a little bit of work on
> >> ComponentContainer, ComponentLoaderConfig I think we can fix this issue.
> >>
> >> So +1 for allowing zero components in specialpurpose. This is a good
> step
> >> towards implementing the plugins logic as you stated.
> >>
> >> Taher Alkhateeb
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> >> slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Pierre,
> >>>
> >>> This is a minor issue that we can fix easily by looking at the XML
> >>> parsing
> >>> code I don't think it's a big deal.
> >>>
> >>> I am assuming you're working on the ecommerce demo data right? For
> >>> testing
> >>> purposes for now I would suggest that you enable the example component,
> >>> it
> >>> does not have anything required by the inner components.
> >>>
> >>> Taher Alkhateeb
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 2, 2016 12:30 PM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> While working on OFBIZ-7016 (removing dependencies on e-commerce), I
> >>>> tested
> >>>> also whether it was possible to do a deployment without any of the
> >>>> special
> >>>> purpose components activated.
> >>>> First, I tested this by commenting out all components in the
> >>>> component-load.xml file in the specialpurpose folder.
> >>>>
> >>>> This generated following error:
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-08-02 11:18:38,224 |main                 |ComponentContainer
> >>>>    |I| Auto-Loading component directory :
> >>>> [/Users/pierre/dev/ofbiz/ofbiz-gradle/specialpurpose]
> >>>>
> >>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> java.util.Collections$UnmodifiableCollection.<init>(Collections.java:1026)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> java.util.Collections$UnmodifiableList.<init>(Collections.java:1302)
> >>>>
> >>>> at java.util.Collections.unmodifiableList(Collections.java:1287)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.component.ComponentLoaderConfig.getComponentsFromConfig(ComponentLoaderConfig.java:105)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ComponentContainer.loadComponentDirectory(ComponentContainer.java:144)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ComponentContainer.loadComponentFromConfig(ComponentContainer.java:129)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ComponentContainer.loadComponents(ComponentContainer.java:95)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ComponentContainer.init(ComponentContainer.java:73)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.loadContainer(ContainerLoader.java:186)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.load(ContainerLoader.java:98)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.StartupControlPanel.loadStartupLoaders(StartupControlPanel.java:249)
> >>>>
> >>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.StartupControlPanel.start(StartupControlPanel.java:72)
> >>>>
> >>>> at org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:84)
> >>>>
> >>>> I also tested with the component-load.xml file removed from the
> >>>> specialpurpose folder.
> >>>>
> >>>> This generated the following build error:
> >>>>
> >>>> FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * Where:
> >>>>
> >>>> Script '/Users/pierre/dev/ofbiz/ofbiz-gradle/common.gradle' line: 22
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> * What went wrong:
> >>>>
> >>>> A problem occurred evaluating settings 'ofbiz'.
> >>>>
> >>>> /Users/pierre/dev/ofbiz/ofbiz-gradle/specialpurpose/component-load.xml
> >>>>>
> >>>> (No such file or directory)
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems to me there is - currently - a hard coded requirement on
> >>>>
> >>>>     1. the existence of component-load.xml in the special purpose
> >>>> folder,
> >>>> and
> >>>>     2. at least 1 special purpose component listed in the
> >>>> component-load.xml
> >>>>     file
> >>>>
> >>>> However, it is very well possible that an adopter decides to *not* use
> >>>> any
> >>>> of the special purpose components. And also, the discussion of the
> >>>> 'plugin
> >>>> deployment/activation' solution seems to suggest that it is even
> >>>> possible
> >>>> to deactivate all special purpose components (remove from
> >>>> component-load.xml?).
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we should more carefully look into this regarding how we
> deal
> >>>> with this scenario.
> >>>>
> >>>> WDYT?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre Smits
> >>>>
> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> >>>>
> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>

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