Hi Michael

Responses inline.

On 2016-09-06 12:55 (+0200), Michael Brohl <[email protected]> wrote: 
> +1 on the Wiki page effort, it's great!
> 
> Not sure about the issue importance: for me, this is more an indicator 
> of how much this issue affects the project instead of a priority to deal 
> with it. I would leave it as that and maybe introduce a new field for 
> priority (if we do not already have one, haven't checked).
> 

I think 'Priority' is generally about the urgency of an issue and impact is 
about the effect it has. Perhaps we need a field or flag for the issue impact. 
(I will take a look to see if one already exists that we could add to our form)

> Maybe better use a sequence diagram 
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_diagram) instead of a flow chart 
> for the issue status? 

The diagram I pulled out came directly out of Jira itself so if people think 
its a good idea to have something simpler then that's doable too.

> 
> Michael
> 

Thanks
Sharan
> 
> Am 06.09.16 um 12:37 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
> > Hi Sharan, Everyone,
> >
> > Great work on the JIRA ->
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Guidelines+for+Using+Jira
> >
> > I like the fact that you denote all issues for trunk as being either minor
> > or trivial. This does not mean they are not important or do not contain a
> > lot of hard work. Instead it means they are not urgent, which is exactly
> > the case for trunk (unstable)!
> >
> > One thing we can do to further improve the situation is to have a default
> > value of "Trivial" to all newly created JIRAs so that people intentionally
> > change it to whatever is more suitable. Another thing I note in the wiki is
> > that the workflow (chart with arrows) is currently confusing. They need to
> > be broken apart because too many lines intersect and you don't know which
> > line goes where.
> >
> > Is this document a good start for adherence for all future JIRAs? Can we
> > start guiding others towards the link for adherence to our requirements? Or
> > do we need to finalize it first?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Taher Alkhateeb
> >
> > On 2016-09-05 14:06 ( 0300), "Sharan [email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi Taher>
> >>
> >>   1 >
> >>
> >> You have raised some good actionable points here. I think you are right
> > that the Jira guidelines need be completely separated out into something
> > that is clear and can be used as an easy reference.>
> >> I will create a wiki page to start pulling the information together.>
> >>
> >> Thanks>
> >> Sharan>
> >>
> >> On 2016-09-03 07:56 ( 0200), Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]> wrote: >
> >>> Hi Everyone,>
> >>> As of this writing, we have 3 blocker, 6 critical 733 major, 521 minor
> > and>
> >>> 50 trivial open JIRAs and I note:>
> >>> - I think none of the blocker and critical JIRAs belong in that
> > category.>
> >>> - It is also unrealistic to have 733 major issues. it is like saying
> > we>
> >>> have that many serious problems>
> >>> - I think a realistic distribution would have a pyramid count with a
> > max>
> >>> (pyramid base) being trivial JIRAs.>
> >>> - A substantial number of jiras is old and no longer applicable.>
> >>> - A substantial number of jiras is vague and not understandable,
> > poorly>
> >>> written, without enough details to work on.>
> >>> - A substantial amount of jiras are placeholders for something to do>
> >>> without proper thinking and planning, which would make them unrealistic
> > or>
> >>> not applicable.>
> >>> - Some JIRAs are extremely granular. For example a task broken to
> > subtasks>
> >>> each for a tiny amount of work that is not worth the time and effort
> > of>
> >>> making so many tasks.>
> >>> So I think our issue tracking system is not properly used and we have
> > many>
> >>> JIRAs that are not useful and distracting. I propose the following
> > actions:>
> >>> - Add a wiki page (if one does not exist) documenting:>
> >>>    - Guidelines for writing JIRA mentioning clarity, provision of
> > solution.>
> >>>    - A clear definition of priorities (blocker, critical, major, minor,>
> >>> trivial) with some examples.>
> >>>    - A description of meaning of assignee and how to use it>
> >>>    - A description of other metadata and how to properly use it (tags,>
> >>> components, affects version, etc...)>
> >>> - we need to close all old, not applicable, vague and poorly written
> > JIRAs>
> >>> as per wiki guidelines. Alternatively authors can rewrite JIRAs to
> > comply>
> >>> with guidelines.>
> >>> - We need to fix priorities of all remaining JIRAs as per wiki
> > guidelines>
> >>> This would give us a realistic view of the _real_ issues in OFBiz
> > instead>
> >>> of drowning in so many JIRAs many of which are hindering rather than>
> >>> helping.>
> >>> What do you think?>
> >>> Taher Alkhateeb>
> 
> 
> 

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