I'm totally on your side guys. Second one is the one to form a responsible community. Driven by the inspirations of everyone but decided by group of long-term members.
Bye, Daniel 2013/2/3 Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> > +1 for model 2. > > 2013/2/2 Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]>: > > Hi all, > > > > when we graduate we need to form a PMC. There are two operational > > models I know In the ASF: > > > > 1) Committer == PMC > > > > I think this works OK if all people are nice and friends and know each > > other good. But personally I don't like it so much. Others think > > different and cannot see good reasons to differ between PMC and > > Committers. This model would say: everybody from the project has a > > binding vote. > > > > 2) Committer < PMC > > > > This model says, you can become committer and access source code. But > > when it comes to decisions only the PMC have binding votes. It doesn't > > mean a committer can't influence the project; it just says only PMC > > can really block things. > > > > I like this model more. The reason is, in future we might vote in new > > committers who we might not know so well. It might turn out they are > > not so nice as they looked in the beginning. I don't want to give out > > binding votes to people I don't know so well. > > > > In my opinion, option 2 gives us the chance to include people quicker. > > Option 1 would force us to look a long term to every individual and > > vote later. > > > > There are different views on both models. Of course we can decide on > > something else too. But for now I would love to see model 2 at Onami. > > > > Are there any other thoughts? > > > > What happens when graduating? > > > > When we graduate we need to form a PMC. it is also the time to > > "remove" persons from the project, when they are not longer interested > > and don't want to commit. > > > > We should look at our community and identify people who really drive > > Onami. Maybe we can simply ask our members if they want to join the > > PMC or not. I believe in our case folks who haven't got much time to > > help here, may want to stay committer and join as PMC later. Thats > > perfectly ok. > > > > Once we formed the PMC we should nominate potential chairs. A chair is > > the guy from the PMC who sends reports to the board. He doesn't have > > "super extra powers" inside the project. But actually I think the > > chair is a pretty respected person. > > > > The first I ask now is which model we would like to take. > > > > Please ask me anything you want to know on voting, pmc roles etc - now > > is the time and I have a couple of links. > > > > Cheers > > Christian > > > > > > -- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > https://www.timeandbill.de > > > > -- > Olivier Lamy > Talend: http://coders.talend.com > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy > -- Viele Grüße/Best Regards Daniel Manzke
