Thanks Bruce -- attachment didn't come through (I think the mailing list
strips them) so if you want to send me the attachment,
chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
works for that.

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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Barkstrom <brbarkst...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:49 PM
To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [jira] [Resolved] (OODT-639) Add a versioner based on Product
Type Metadata

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>It's a reasonable start.  I had done something similar
>for CERES.  However, I think there are some kinds
>of collections (like Rock Cores and the NOAA Emergency
>Response Imagery collection) where the number of layers
>is different.
>
>Also, since I don't think you'd seen my examples of the
>FCA web site approach, I've attached my presentation
>for the WMSCI meeting the week after next.  Unzip
>the file (it's got the paper in pdf form).  The presentation
>is the .ppt file.  There are two example web sites included.
>You should be able to link from the appropriate pages to
>the web sites.  The first example has the navigation from
>no attributes to enough to select an object.  The second
>is a reasonable facsimile to the way the NOAA storm damage
>site works in the top level or two.  Note particularly the lack
>of having to input a keyword to navigate through the site.
>
>Thanks for the response.
>
>Bruce B.
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>Hey Bruce,
>
>Totally agree. In Apache OODT, we have the layered, hierarchical attribute
>approach, already, wherein which the first layer is the "Product Type"
>concept,
>capturing aggregate information bout a set of products (name, id,
>classification,
>aggregate free form metadata, sets of metadata extractors, and
>"versioning" or
>file placement on disk policy, etc.). The next level is the Product level,
>where
>we capture product (or frequently changing) level metadata; apply the
>versioning
>scheme for file placement, and extract metadata using the per product type
>specified
>metadata extractors. Attributes at the product level are hierarchical in
>the sense
>that they are defined by per product type policy (though we can accept
>others) and
>are specified in the OODT File Manager server through the use of a
>particular
>ValidationLayer, and RepositoryManager selected for the running system.
>
>HTH!
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
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>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
>WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Barkstrom <brbarkst...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:50 PM
>To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: [jira] [Resolved] (OODT-639) Add a versioner based on Product
>Type Metadata
>
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>>I'll at least mention an issue we've discovered when examining existing
>>Earth science data collections: the collections have a layered or
>>hierarchical
>>structure, with each layer having different kinds of metadata (or, if I
>>did
>>it
>>a bit more formally, different types of metadata).  In Formal Concept
>>Analysis, it shows up as hierarchical attributes.
>>
>>The easiest example is perhaps the NOAA Emergency Response Imagery
>>collection, where the top layer divides about 250,000 digital photos into
>>about twenty collections - one for each disastrous storm that needed an
>>emergency response.  Examples include Hurricane Sandy, Hurricane
>>Katrina, and the Tuscaloosa Tornado.  The top level metadata fields
>>are (Storm Name, Storm Date, and Storm Location).  One level below
>>that, the storm collections bifurcate into image collections organized
>>by airplane flight path or organized by coarse geographic boxes.
>>Each storm collection has this bifurcation - and so once a user
>>has distinguished which storm collection he or she is interested in,
>>Storm Name (or Date or Location) is not helpful in distinguishing
>>a flight path collection from a geographic collection.
>>
>>The level below that for the flight path requires distinguishing which
>>flight path is the one you want.  Once you decide that, you can get
>>a zipped file with several hundred jpg images.  On the other hand,
>>if you go the geographic boxes, you can get individual images.
>>The metadata types for the boxes are quire different from the metadata
>>for the flight paths.
>>
>>The same kind of structure crops up for rock core archives (wells, boxes
>>in a well, core fragments in a box), as well as for many of the satellite
>>data collections.
>>
>>The usual library science approach (e.g. Functional Requirements
>>for Bibliographic Records, and its relatives) assumes all the inventoried
>>objects in an archive should have the same types of metadata.  With
>>the Emergency Response Imagery collection, the "Responsible Party"
>>field is sort of "Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, National Ocean Survey,
>>National Geodetic Survey, Emergency Response Imagery Project"
>>and its the same for every image or zipped image file.  At least in
>>this case, an "Author" metadata field (assuming that Dept. of Commerce
>>is a Responsible Party and that a Responsible Party is equivalent
>>to an Author) is of NO help at distinguishing which of the quarter
>>million files you might want to get.  In FCA, the algorithms would
>>ignore the field if applied to the whole collection.
>>
>>Some care would appear to be appropriate.
>>
>>Bruce b.
>>
>>On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Chris A. Mattmann (JIRA)
>><j...@apache.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>      [
>>>
>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-639?page=com.atlassian.jira.p
>>>l
>>>ugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel]
>>>
>>> Chris A. Mattmann resolved OODT-639.
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>     Resolution: Fixed
>>>
>>> - fixed in r1495761. Added unit test and doc updates to all product
>>>types
>>> suggesting how to use the new versioner.
>>>
>>> > Add a versioner based on Product Type Metadata
>>> > ----------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >                 Key: OODT-639
>>> >                 URL:
>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-639
><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-639>
>>> >             Project: OODT
>>> >          Issue Type: New Feature
>>> >          Components: file manager
>>> >            Reporter: Chris A. Mattmann
>>> >            Assignee: Chris A. Mattmann
>>> >             Fix For: 0.6
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Add a versioner that allows users to input the filePathSpec for the
>>> MetadataBasedVersioner using ProductTypeMetadata, e.g.,
>>> > {code:xml}
>>> > <type id="foo" name="Foo">
>>> >  <typeMetadata>
>>> >   <keyval>
>>> >     <key>filePathSpec</key>
>>> >     <val>/[AcquisitionDate]/[Filename]</val>
>>> >   </keyval>
>>> >  </typeMetadata>
>>> > ..
>>> > </type>
>>> > {code}
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