LGTM, I agree with Xuanwo's solution. I have carefully read through all the discussions in this thread, and now I understand the matter.
Best, PsiACE On 2023/11/30 09:56:48 Xuanwo wrote: > Taking into account feedback from PPMC members, I propose the following: > > Initiate an invitation to all committers at [email protected] with a three-day > response timeout. Committers interested in taking the responsibilities of > PPMC members can respond according to their own preference. > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, at 16:52, Mingzhuo Yin wrote: > >> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >> > >> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > > > > > > I think it’s acceptable to invite all active committers. > > > >>> I suggest initiating a vote at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> regarding the > >>> proposed consensus and encourage everyone to participate. > >>> All PPMC members must cast their votes, while committers are welcome to > >>> leave comments. > >> > >> I think this could be a good way. Our current discussion has been > >> going on for a relatively long time. > >> We may need a clearer context for posting ideas to encourage active > >> participation from all. > > > > > > I agree with it. Perhaps it would be better to summarize to a clearer > > background and start voting. Furthermore, I think it is also important > > to listen to committer's thoughts. > > > >> I agree that this is a concern that the PPMC is less active in the > >> graduation discussion and moving forward tasks. > > > > Sorry for late response. I’m a little busy recently. > > > >> 2023年11月30日 16:12，tison <[email protected]> 写道： > >> > >>> warm-hearted committer > >> > >> My experience is that PMC members generally take more responsibility > >> instead of authority on project management. > >> > >> If one submits patches, report issues, or evangelize the project, I'd > >> regard the people as a committer who commits to evolving the project. > >> > >> Then, if any contributor (no matter whether or not he/she is a > >> committer already) shows interest in participate in project management > >> and showing a good understanding, I'll regard them as a PMC member > >> candidate. > >> > >> Management includes reviewing/replying other's > >> contributions/questions, and take actions on CVE, release, etc. > >> > >> I have a loose concern that OpenDAL has a much higher bar on PMC > >> members than committers. If you take a look at the News section in our > >> status page [1], you will find that we nominate many more committers > >> than PMC members, while some of them are around for a while also and > >> even acts as release manager. > >> > >>> Let's seize this opportunity to nominate more PMC members. > >> > >> It's not a goal to "nominate more PMC members", at least not at this > >> purpose. But we can review the unspoken bar and nominate new PMC > >> member according to our understanding. If you'd like to nominate > >> certain people (with their names referred), note that you should start > >> a new thread in private@. > >> > >> Best, > >> tison. > >> > >> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/opendal.html > >> > >> Cai Lue <[email protected]> 于2023年11月30日周四 15:34写道： > >>> > >>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy dealing with my university > >>> graduation issues this week. > >>> > >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >>>> > >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > >>> > >>> It will be acceptable if every warm-hearted committer could be included. > >>> > >>> On 2023/11/18 11:13:33 tison wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Here is a sub-object on the project graduation - Have an agreement on the > >>>> members of the PMC[1]. > >>>> > >>>> Generally, all members of the PPMC will be included in the TLP PMC. All > >>>> members of the IPC will be invited to join the TLP PMC. > >>>> > >>>> I'll additionally suggest including all the current committers in the TLP > >>>> PMC unless there is a certain issue. > >>>> > >>>> And this thread is to reach a consensus on the proposal above. > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> tison. > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/issues/3616 > >>>> > > -- > Xuanwo >
