Hi,

Filtering urls/dependencies is probably faster than packages, no?

However i think the ejb-jar approach could still be used/activated by 
configuration, it is really a pretty nive feature but it can't be the default 
one today, your proposal looks nice as the default behavior.

- Romain

----- Reply message -----
De : "Thiago Veronezi" <[email protected]>
Date : jeu., mars 24, 2011 18:39
Objet : EJB 3.1 Embedded Container API and the examples
PourĀ : <[email protected]>

Hi, David!
Don't you think that a big ugly warning at startup time with some tips to
the user on how to improve the performance can do the job? This way we keep
the "ejb-jar.xml" (I love this one!), the "go through all classes" and the
"by package" approaches.

[]s,
Thiago.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:34 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]>wrote:

> Currently all our examples use the OpenEJB-specific InitialContext
> approach.  The main reason is that the Embedded API implementation is quite
> a bit different and it isn't possible to switch from one to the other
> without changes.
>
> One of the tricks to making them the same is that there is a spec defined
> difference in default scanning behavior.  Our legacy default is to require
> ejb-jar.xml files (performance minded).  The spec approach is to not require
> descriptors (several times slower).
>
> I was aware of this difference when we (the EG) made that rule, but was
> confident we (us here) could probably find some pragmatic compromise.
>
> Here's my thoughts on that...
>
> The spec doesn't require that even things like the VM classes have to be
> scanned.  This would be quite silly and definitely was not the intention of
> the "no descriptors required" rule.  So somewhere between everything and
> nothing is fair game.  A reasonable default that makes most people happy is
> all we need.  But what would that be?
>
> With the package based filtering that we [will shortly] have we can switch
> from classpath based filtering and probably wind up with something that is
> way better.  The user can specify the packages they want us to scan.  In the
> event that no packages are specified, the bootstrapper (EJBContainer or
> IntialContext) will throw and catch an exception in initialization, which is
> triggered by user code, and *collect* the packages.  Those will be your
> defaults.
>
> We can probably continue to filter out some packages (org.apache.openejb.,
> javax., etc.) and maybe even chop the remaining packages down to two
> components "org.foo" so that we still have a nice and wide default
> namespace.  If people want to go wider or more narrow than that, they can
> take some explicit configuration action.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> -David
>
>
>
>

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