really, from owb-1.1.3 to 1.1.4 there is not much difference beside the fix I 
did for Romain. 

I agree that this is important for your scenario, but most people will not have 
this issue.

Romain, is it possible that you just upgrade the owb-impl.jar locally and we go 
on with 1.1.3 so far?

I'm really +1 for releasing now and then in 1 month from now. The previously 
released tomee version really had some big glitches, and we need to ship 
something to be able to make any users able to give tomee a serious run...

I'm sure we will get back a lot feedback and there will be other things which 
must get improved as well in this month!

In ~1M we will get bval to TLP and release bval-1.0, release owb-1.1.4 and 
release OpenJPA-2.2.0 (already triggered the discuss about it).

LieGrue,
strub


----- Original Message -----
> From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Release time?
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> 
>>  No, this ones is not available with previous owb. Was the same with
>>  interceptor bindings.
>> 
>>  However i still think 1.1.4 should be used since it fixes issues relative
>>  to cdi 1.0 itself.
> 
> Right, I think it comes down to:  should we release now and then again in two 
> or 
> three weeks, or should we just release in two or three weeks.
> 
> So either way I see a release in our future in 2 or 3 weeks.  I see that 
> release 
> as a constant.  Will happen regardless.
> 
> The real question is are the issues in beta-1 and 1.1.1 bad enough that we 
> should try and release something now as well?
> 
> 
> 
> -David
> 
>>  Le 4 janv. 2012 18:19, "David Blevins" 
> <david.blev...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  -> the 0.3 release of bval means changing the bval tck setup
>>>>  -> the bug of owb 1.1.3 is not tested in TCKs (as a lot of 
> others):
>>>>  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1224895
>>> 
>>>  Cool.  Can you file a JIRA for that one.
>>> 
>>>  This is basically the "can't add interceptors via an 
> extension" bug right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  -David
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  2012/1/4 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  if you have the openjpa-maven-plugin-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT, then 
> you most
>>>>>  definitely also have openjpa itself in 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I'm using an internally released version of it in 2 
> projects, and
>>>>>  OpenJPA-2.2.0-SNAPSHOT is really stable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  So we could also push for shipping an OpenJPA release. I 
> can take over
>>>>>  driving this part (I'm OpenJPA committer).
>>>>>>  I found quite a few (personal) show stoppers in 
> openjpa-2.1.x which we
>>>>>  fixed in 2.2.x
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Any gut feeling on how long releases take in OpenJPA-land?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  If you still like to use openjpa-2.1.x, then just use the
>>>>>  org.codehaus.mojo version of the plugin instead [1]. They are 
> basically
>>>  the
>>>>>  same source, I just moved the plugin over to openjpa to make it 
> easier
>>>  to
>>>>>  maintain and test with OpenJPA itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Probably the TCK will be the biggest indicator if we can 
> switch, then
>>>>>  2.2.x release time.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Not sure where our SNAPSHOT discussions will end up, but I can 
> see us
>>>>>  potentially releasing now with prior versions of the SNAPSHOTs 
> then
>>>>>  beginning another release  in 2-3 weeks as the newer versions 
> come
>>>  along.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Seems like there's some merit in releasing now and giving 
> people just a
>>>>>  bit more time to get their releases out the door.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -David
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>  From: David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>  To: dev@openejb.apache.org
>>>>>>>  Cc:
>>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:56 AM
>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: Release time?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:52 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO 
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  +1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Can we use timestamped snapshot as a workaround 
> (for snapshot deps,
>>>  I
>>>>>>>  mean)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  We could maybe release the code ourselves like 
> Geronimo does from
>>>  time
>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>  time.  Just copy it in, update the groupIds and release 
> it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Looking at our snapshots we have:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  - javaee-api  6.0-3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - cxf  2.5.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - owb  1.1.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - bval  0.4-incubating-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - openejb-openwebbeans-jsf  1.1.2-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container  
> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - openejb-jstl 1.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Some of these will be easy to deal with, but these seem 
> a bit
>>>  trickier:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  - karaf-maven-plugin 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - org.apache.karaf.tooling.exam.container  
> 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>  - openjpa-maven-plugin  2.2.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  From a compliance perpective it looks like we're 
> good with the
>>>  following
>>>>>>>  previous versions:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  - cxf  2.5.0
>>>>>>>  - owb  1.1.3
>>>>>>>  - bval  0.3-incubating (our patched version)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  We could easily release again in two weeks or so when 
> these things are
>>>>>  all
>>>>>>>  released.  We keep saying we want to release more 
> frequently but we
>>>>>  haven't
>>>>>>>  yet done it.  Releasing again when these binaries are 
> out might be a
>>>>>  good way to
>>>>>>>  get into that habit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Holding our release isn't that appealing and 
> neither is using
>>>>>>>  non-reproducable timestamped versions.  Neither are 
> really good
>>>  habits.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  -David
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>

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