Okay so I might have gotten that wrong. I thought implementing auto
refresh later on could mean to use client-side polling or server-side
push...

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> but we said we'll not use long polling so it should be fine ;)
>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/5/29 dsh <daniel.hais...@googlemail.com>
>
>> No implementing client-side long polling in JavaScript might be
>> causing issues...
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > what do you mean?
>> >
>> > clicking on a button causes perf issues more than real time refresh?
>> >
>> > - Romain
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/5/29 dsh <daniel.hais...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> >> I like your proposed approach of first keep it simple and just have a
>> >> manual refresh button and then go with WebSocket, Comet [1] or similar
>> >> server-side push techniques. On the other hand I would avoid
>> >> client-side polling cause it might be causing performance issues...
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_%28programming%29
>> >>
>> >> PS: IIRC RAP uses qooxdoo internally.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > There is no secret with long-polling. It is just an ajax call that
>> hangs
>> >> > longer than the usual ones. Websockets are different: the browser
>> should
>> >> be
>> >> > able to handle it.
>> >> > To make it simple we can just add a "refresh button", so we can load
>> the
>> >> > log with regular ajax calls. Once the first version of this new
>> interface
>> >> > is done we can add the autorefresh functionality. What do you think?
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Eclipse RAP
>> >> > First time a hear about it. It looks very cool!!! I will definitely
>> take
>> >> a
>> >> > look. Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> >  Thiago.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, dsh <daniel.hais...@googlemail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Concerning long-polling (Comet, WebSockets etc. pp), depending on the
>> >> >> framework you use the actual polling implementation is getting
>> >> >> abstracted. So the user would get the impl depending on the
>> >> >> capabilities provided by the browser and you on the other hand would
>> >> >> not need to worrie about such technical details. I know Dojo does
>> such
>> >> >> abstraction... not sure about jQuery...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PS: The Mockup reminds me very much about the Eclipse
>> perspective/view
>> >> >> concept. Probably using Eclipse RAP for the UI would be an
>> >> >> overkill/unsuitable but there you would get such UI
>> >> >> lay-outing/structuring mechanisms for free :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> Daniel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Thiago Veronezi <
>> thi...@veronezi.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Yes, It makes more sense, otherwise it would be very hard to read
>> the
>> >> >> > log... which doesn't make sense. :O)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>> Will it be a live log viewer where new log entries are floating
>> in
>> >> >> > similar to digg.com?
>> >> >> > Yes. For that I plan to use long-polling (something I have
>> experience
>> >> >> > with), but websockets are the perfect alternative if we have this
>> >> feature
>> >> >> > available at the server side.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I created another mockup with a new position for the log panel and
>> two
>> >> >> > extra panels (MDB and Webservices):
>> >> >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_v2.png
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What you guys think?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for the feedback!
>> >> >> > []s,
>> >> >> > Thiago.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:27 AM, dsh <
>> daniel.hais...@googlemail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> One thought concerning the log view - maybe it would make sense to
>> >> >> >> have it at the bottom where it could span the entire screen so log
>> >> >> >> messages can be digested easier. Will it be a live log viewer
>> where
>> >> >> >> new log entries are floating in similar to digg.com?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> >> Daniel
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Thiago Veronezi <
>> >> thi...@veronezi.org>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Guys,
>> >> >> >> > I need your feedback about what I have in mind for the new
>> webapp.
>> >> >> >> > Basically I want to replace all the pages we have by a new one
>> >> which
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> > give the user the access to a script console, the jndi tree and
>> the
>> >> >> tomee
>> >> >> >> > log file.
>> >> >> >> > Please check the mockup I created for it:
>> >> >> >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1459144/tomee_webapp.png
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > What do you think?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> > Thiago.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

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