The profile is good enough IMO.

If we make it secure by default it will be a pain in dev (and one reason to
not use it for me)

Security depends on if there is a httpd or not too...in real life it
shouldnt be an issue too much, no?
Le 8 oct. 2012 19:30, "Bjorn Danielsson" <[email protected]>
a écrit :

> Just my opinion for whatever it's worth:
>
> As we all know, and as Romain explains quite clearly, there
> is a built-in conflict between what is most convenient for
> the developer and what is most convenient for the production
> people.
>
> I think all defaults *except* for security-impacting things
> should be chosen to make life easier for developers,
> not production people. But for anything security-related
> I suggest that the defaults should *always* be governed by
> the principle "secure out of the box".
>
> My reason is that there are (unfortunately) too many people out
> there who have very little clues about security, or who don't
> have any incentive to care about it. And as the popularity of
> TomEE grows, the impact of such people deploying TomEE will
> also grow. The consequences of that must be weighed against
> the inconvenience of the developer's need to relax the security
> settings.
>
> --
> Bjorn Danielsson
> Cuspy Code AB
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> wrote:
> > hmm that's not exactly what i said Alex :p
> >
> > on a project you generally have N (>5) developpers using the container to
> > develop (let say with tomee-maven-pugin or WTP or something else...)
> >
> > then when it is about production you have 2-3 people configuring the
> server
> > then it can be deployed in cluster automatically from the config.
> >
> > So my statement is the config work in dev is > the prod one
> >
> > So IMO it should work out of the box in dev then the prod should adapt
> the
> > conf. That's for instance what we do about datasources: we provide some
> > default datasources to let people use JPA out of the box then in
> production
> > you configure your real datasource, your pooling etc...
> >
> > Sorry if it was not clear.
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/10/6 Alex The Rocker <[email protected]>
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is to continue the discussion started in users@ list around JIRA
> >> improvement item https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-450
> >>
> >> I'm a bit surprised by Romain's statement that TomEE is primarily used
> by
> >> developers : I thought that in real world there are more app servers
> used
> >> to deploy than to develop ; even if since TomEE is new it's not yet the
> >> case.
> >>
> >> Any opinion?
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
>

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