Sebastian, I'll prepare RC2 Can you please take a look at Release Notes and update it?
I plan to check the cluster and video on WB today. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:51 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Maxim: What is your decision? Release that candidate or make a RC2? > Its basically your decision as Release Manager. I would suggest to have > some discussion about that. > > @Jaime: I don't think your issue is a plugin error. It is more likely that > some event send from the SWF8 to the SWF11 app through LocalConnection > fails and that is why the video stays on the whiteboard. I have seen such > an issue before and actually fixed it. > However first of all we need to be able to reproduce it. > > Sebastian > > > 2013/3/11 Eldad Yamin <elda...@gmail.com> > > > @Maxim > > > > Yes, flash plugin. > > When I'll get home, I'll be able to provide more info (version etc.). > > > > Eldad. > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > @Eldad you have default Ubuntu plugin for what? do you mean flash > plugin? > > > > > > @Jaime I'll doublecheck > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jaime Balbino <jaimeb...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > About (c): If you play video in Whiteboard, don't is possible stop > it. > > > > Video stand in screen, but only user start video. Because this I > think > > is > > > > plugin flash error. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/11 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > b) you need to have ffmpeg with x264 support enabled: > > > > > > > > > > root@Ubuntu ~ # ffmpeg -version > > > > > ffmpeg version git-2013-03-11-1123080 > > > > > built on Mar 11 2013 06:15:35 with gcc 4.6 (Ubuntu/Linaro > > > 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) > > > > > configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-libass --enable-libfaac > > > > > --enable-libfdk-aac --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb > > > > > --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libspeex --enable-librtmp > > > > > --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx > > --enable-x11grab > > > > > --enable-libx264 --enable-nonfree --enable-version3 > > > > > libavutil 52. 19.100 / 52. 19.100 > > > > > libavcodec 54. 92.100 / 54. 92.100 > > > > > libavformat 54. 63.104 / 54. 63.104 > > > > > libavdevice 54. 3.103 / 54. 3.103 > > > > > libavfilter 3. 44.101 / 3. 44.101 > > > > > libswscale 2. 2.100 / 2. 2.100 > > > > > libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102 > > > > > libpostproc 52. 2.100 / 52. 2.100 > > > > > > > > > > can you please be more specific regarding c) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Jaime Balbino < > jaimeb...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > a) Sharing OK, but no record. Botton no start. > > > > > > > > > > > > b) I use new ffmpeg 1.3 buy source. No record video, only audio, > in > > > > > > interview room. > > > > > > > > > > > > c) Video stand in Witheboard in user with startup. Another users > > > clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > d) Rest OK. More speed and stable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Debian 6/64 > > > > > > java version "1.6.0_26" > > > > > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03) > > > > > > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/11 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start/stop recordings works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sw_vers > > > > > > > ProductName: Mac OS X > > > > > > > ProductVersion: 10.6.8 > > > > > > > BuildVersion: 10K549 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > java -version > > > > > > > java version "1.6.0_43" > > > > > > > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build > 1.6.0_43-b01-447-10M4203) > > > > > > > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.14-b01-447, mixed mode) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > its weird :( I'll doublecheck > > > > > > > > The only change made to screensharing was the fix proposed by > > > > Artyom > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Maxim, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> yes I have x264 enabled. HOwever the issue is not in the > > process > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> recording. Its the recording itself. > > > > > > > >> Hitting the stop recording button just results in nothing. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 2013/3/11 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > OK, > > > > > > > >> > I'll close the VOTE (4 days passed) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > formally the vote is passed (more positive votes than > > > negative) > > > > > > > >> > nevertheless I think we need to resolve couple of minor > > issues > > > > > found > > > > > > > >> > (surprisingly there are no JIRA issues about it) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > @Sebastian have you recompiled your ffmpeg to support > h264? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Jaime Balbino < > > > > > jaimeb...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > The Eldad's video bug is old problem. I dont know > tickets > > > from > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > >> > Afect > > > > > > > >> > > the user with post video only. I think this is maybe > some > > > > plugin > > > > > > > >> flash in > > > > > > > >> > > Linux. > > > > > > > >> > > I am reinstall OM 2.1RC1 now. > > > > > > > >> > > For this I change again my vote for 0 (zero). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > 2013/3/10 seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Eldad/Jaime Are there JIRA tickets for the issues? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > >> > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > 2013/3/11 Eldad Yamin <elda...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Unless you fix the video bug (cannot remove played > > > videos > > > > > from > > > > > > > >> > screen) > > > > > > > >> > > > I'd > > > > > > > >> > > > > say -1. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Alexei Fedotov > > > > > > > >> > > > > <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > -1 votes should contain some justification > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 11.03.2013 0:02 пользователь "Jaime Balbino" < > > > > > > > >> jaimeb...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > написал: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I review my vote: -1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2013/3/10 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I appreciate all efforts going into that > release > > > > but I > > > > > > > >> think it > > > > > > > >> > > > needs > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > some > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > more testing. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Therefore my vote is currently negative. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mainly because recording on OSX did not work > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I will have to verify that on another box > where > > > > > windows > > > > > > is > > > > > > > >> > > > installed. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Testing machine OSX 10.8.2, java 1.6.0_43 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Database: Default derby build in database > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Issues: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > - Server needed 50% of the CPU as soon as I > > > started > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> record > > > > > > > >> > in > > > > > > > >> > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > screensharing client (the java process of the > > > server > > > > > > took > > > > > > > >> 50% > > > > > > > >> > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > screensharing process took another 20-30 %). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > After starting the recording, hitting the stop > > > > button > > > > > > just > > > > > > > >> > > resulted > > > > > > > >> > > > > in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am also a bit concerned about the Flash > > Players > > > > CPU > > > > > > > >> usage. In > > > > > > > >> > > > > > previous > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > versions I think the usage of the CPU was > > > > significant > > > > > > > lower > > > > > > > >> > when > > > > > > > >> > > > you > > > > > > > >> > > > > > did > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > share your cam+mic. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But I first need to verify that using the old > > > > release > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> have > > > > > > > >> > > some > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > concrete > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > numbers. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The Clustering feature is also not ready to be > > > > > > officially > > > > > > > >> > > released. > > > > > > > >> > > > > The > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > release notes say nothing about the missing > > > > > components. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For example: Whiteboard not stored in > database, > > > chat > > > > > not > > > > > > > >> stored > > > > > > > >> > > in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > database > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > (which both has minor effects when not done > > > however > > > > > this > > > > > > > >> would > > > > > > > >> > be > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > essential > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > to know for anybody doing tests with it). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The overall chat is not stored in the database > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > >> > > synced > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > between > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > cluster nodes, so that the initial node of the > > > > cluster > > > > > > > >> should > > > > > > > >> > be > > > > > > > >> > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > same > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > for anybody connecting to openmeetings (also > > this > > > > has > > > > > > only > > > > > > > >> > minor > > > > > > > >> > > > > > effects > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > but nowhere documented). > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Server user/pass is nowhere in use but still > to > > be > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > database. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > After all there is only a single 3th party > > > > > verification > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > >> > > > > cluster. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The feature is of beta quality. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2013/3/8 Maxim Solodovnik < > solomax...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > That's a pity :( > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I was sure all blocking issues are resolved. > > > > (There > > > > > > was > > > > > > > >> mail > > > > > > > >> > > > thread > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "release" bug list) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @George can you create issues in JIRA? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @Sebastian currently I'm modifying Release > > guide > > > > "on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> fly" > > > > > > > >> > > > I'll > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > update > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > it with all my steps, so it will be > up-to-date > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:10 AM, George > > Kirkham < > > > > > > > >> > > > > > gkirk...@co2crc.com.au > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I personally believe we should delay the > > > release > > > > > of > > > > > > > RC1 > > > > > > > >> > while > > > > > > > >> > > > we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > attend > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > minor design/GUI and bug issues. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > During this time that Apache OpenMeetings > > > 2.1.0 > > > > > RC1 > > > > > > is > > > > > > > >> > going > > > > > > > >> > > > > > through > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > testing and bug fixes, development [of new > > > > > features] > > > > > > > >> could > > > > > > > >> > > > > continue > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Apache OpenMeetings 2.2. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My reasoning is that people I show > > > OpenMeetings > > > > to > > > > > > are > > > > > > > >> > > > impressed > > > > > > > >> > > > > > with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > capabilities but are really turned off by > > the > > > > > > obvious > > > > > > > >> > issues > > > > > > > >> > > > with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > system, for example text that flows over > or > > > > under > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > >> > test > > > > > > > >> > > or > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > fields > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > the windows/dialog boxes. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now that we are with Apache, I would > really > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > >> it > > > > > > > >> > if > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > did not have these little but annoying > > > > issues/bugs > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > > >> > > we > > > > > > > >> > > > > put > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > forward > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > a much more professional and polished > > product. > > > > An > > > > > > easy > > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > > >> > > use, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > consistent, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > and stable application. New features can > be > > > > added > > > > > > > along > > > > > > > >> > the > > > > > > > >> > > > way > > > > > > > >> > > > > > with > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > version 2.2, but we really should get to a > > > > > position > > > > > > > >> where > > > > > > > >> > > what > > > > > > > >> > > > we > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > have > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2.1.0 RC1 is well designed and maintained. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > When people complain about the look and > feel > > > > (and > > > > > > they > > > > > > > >> are > > > > > > > >> > > > > correct > > > > > > > >> > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > complain), it really upsets me, and my > users > > > do > > > > > > > >> complain, > > > > > > > >> > not > > > > > > > >> > > > > > loudly, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > it is obvious that they do not appreciate > > > these > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > >> > issues > > > > > > > >> > > > that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > detract > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > from an otherwise great application, I > would > > > > > request > > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > > >> > we > > > > > > > >> > > > > attend > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > these issues before we release > OpenMeetings > > > > > version > > > > > > > 2.1. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > George Kirkham > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto: > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com > > > > > > ] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 5:10 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To: priv...@openmeetings.apache.org > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Fwd: [VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings > > 2.1.0 > > > > > > Release > > > > > > > >> > > > Candidate > > > > > > > >> > > > > 1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Maxim Solodovnik < > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:09 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 2.1.0 > > > > Release > > > > > > > >> > Candidate 1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > To: dev <dev@openmeetings.apache.org> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear OpenMeetings Community, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a vote about > releasing > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > >> > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2.1.0 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > RC1 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Main changes are covered in the > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Readme: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1RC1/README > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Full Changelog: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1RC1/CHANGELOG > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Release artefacts: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1/rc1/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Tag: > > > > > > > >> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1RC1/ > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > PGP release keys (signed using C467526E): > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1/rc1/KEYS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ ] +1 approve > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My vote is +1. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > - 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