Sure, but don't you typically indicate the need for subclasses in Java by
requiring an interface or specific base class as a parameter instead of
putting the term "subclass" in your method name?  For example, assuming new
types of orders will show up as new concept classes:

registerOrderableClass(Class<? extends Order> clazz, String name,
OrderableClassHandler handler);

-Burke

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Darius Jazayeri <[email protected]>wrote:

> From a code-writing perspective, it actually *is* important that it's a
> subclass. Particularly, this approach depends on the fact that we have an
> OrderService.getOrders(...) that returns a list of different kinds
> (subclasses) of orders.
>
> I agree that we should not mention "subclass" anywhere in the
> externally-facing WS docs (and that's why I prefer this approach to the
> subclass-links-to-superclass approach: this way give us "different kinds of
> orders"). But I feel like it's important for the developer writing the code
> behind the scenes to know that subclasses are involved. Maybe this is just
> a javadoc issue.
>
> -Darius
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Burke Mamlin <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Can we remove "subclass" from any of this?  That term is not intuitive
>> and has no clinical meaning – e.g., instead use something like
>> registerOrderType or registerOrderClass, depending on how we decide to
>> decide to model different types of orders.  If we follow the path laid out
>> during the design call and start out just supporting different types as
>> orderables using concept classes, then I'd favor registerOrderClass or
>> registerOrderableClass.
>>
>> -Burke
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Darius Jazayeri <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I just replied on the ticket...
>>>
>>> @Roger, I really really don't like the idea of ignoring extra
>>> properties. Trying to update a resource with a property it doesn't support
>>> should _not_ fail silently, it should give you a BAD REQUEST.
>>>
>>> From my proposal above, I think we _should_ include a discriminator
>>> property when you're doing a POST to create, e.g:
>>> {code}
>>> {
>>>     type: "org.openmrs.module.lab.LabModuleOrder",
>>>     startDate: "2011-03-04",
>>>     labModuleSpecimen: "<uuid>"
>>> }
>>> ...will be delegated to the registered handler for LabModuleOrder,
>>> rather than being handled directly by OrderResource.
>>> {code}
>>>
>>> The one revision I'd make to what I said before is that we should hide
>>> the fully-qualified classnames from the end-user of REST. The module should
>>> do something like
>>> {code}
>>> registerSubclass(OrderResource.class, "LabModuleOrder", new
>>> LabModuleOrderSubclassHandler());
>>> {code}
>>>
>>> -Darius
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Friedman, Roger (CDC/CGH/DGHA) (CTR) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  That's why I'd like to see subclasses appear as "flat"; you'd still
>>>> have to update up the tree, but you could use the same body and each layer
>>>> would pick off the variables it needs.  As for create, Hibernate would take
>>>> care of the splitting and only the subclass would be exposed, so there's no
>>>> need for multiple updates.  But this means that there would be no errors
>>>> for specifying "extra" variables.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Darius
>>>> Jazayeri
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:01 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] REST WS and subclasses****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Burke, if we incorporate Jeff Wishnie's off-list suggestion to us about
>>>> making the "Subclass links to Superclass" also include a link from the
>>>> superclass to the subclass, we could do something like this:****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> GET order ->****
>>>>
>>>> [****
>>>>
>>>>     {****
>>>>
>>>>         // order properties here****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [****
>>>>
>>>>             { rel: "self": uri: "order/<uuid>" },****
>>>>
>>>>             { rel: "more-details": uri: "drugorder/<uuid>" }****
>>>>
>>>>         ]****
>>>>
>>>>     },****
>>>>
>>>>     {****
>>>>
>>>>         // order properties here****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [****
>>>>
>>>>             { rel: "self": uri: "order/<uuid2>" },****
>>>>
>>>>             { rel: "more-details": uri: "laborder/<uuid2>" }****
>>>>
>>>>         ]****
>>>>
>>>>     }****
>>>>
>>>> ]****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> GET drugorder ->****
>>>>
>>>> {****
>>>>
>>>>     // only DrugOrder-specific properties here****
>>>>
>>>>     order: { ref representation of the superclass },****
>>>>
>>>>     links: [****
>>>>
>>>>         { rel: "self": uri: "drugorder/<uuid>" }****
>>>>
>>>>     ]****
>>>>
>>>> }****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Personally I prefer my originally-proposed approach #3 instead of this,
>>>> though. It seems like it would be easier for clients to put all a DrugOrder
>>>> properties (own and inherited) in a single document, rather than having
>>>> dosage in one document and startDate and concept in a linked document. As I
>>>> phrased it before, it makes sense to me that if subclasses "inherit the
>>>> *meaning* of the superclass, not just its implementation details" then
>>>> it makes sense to expose them all through a single resource...****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> (But I'm no REST expert, so...)****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Darius****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Burke Mamlin <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Orders are often approached generically (e.g. getting a list of active
>>>> orders; creating order sets that contain meds, tests, educational
>>>> materials, referrals, etc.; etc.), all orders share a base of properties &
>>>> workflows, and we want to allow for modules to add additional types.  By
>>>> treating all orders types as "orders", we allow consumers to treat
>>>> different types differently when they know about them, but also fall back
>>>> to treating them as generic orders for those types they don't understand.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> For example, if I want to generate a list of all active orders, I can
>>>> go to one place, get this list, and show the names of them, who ordered
>>>> them, etc. rather than fetching the active list from each resource
>>>> (drugorder, laborder, radiologyorder, nursingorder, referralorder,
>>>> dietorder, activityorder, precautionorder, and callorder) and then be
>>>> forced to refactor my code when I want to include Roger's latest
>>>> whirlygigorder.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> We could model all order types as separate resources, if we can still
>>>> have a centralized mechanism for dealing with orders (e.g., fetching all
>>>> active orders) and ensure that all of these resources have some shared part
>>>> of their representation that was guaranteed to not only have the same
>>>> properties, but follow the same business logic (e.g., all orders must have
>>>> an orderer, the definition of "active" needs to be applied the same across
>>>> all orders, etc.)****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Burke****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Saptarshi Purkayastha <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> The Approach#3 is extremely complex and means that someone needs to
>>>> understand the type of "what"****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> A client does not have to understand the types, just resources and so
>>>> to me the approach #1 is generalizable and concise to understand as a
>>>> general pattern when having to communicate with OpenMRS web services. Again
>>>> why would it be a problem to use Approach#1 with drugorder or laborder
>>>> resource??****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Saptarshi PURKAYASTHA
>>>>
>>>> My Tech Blog:  http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com
>>>> You Live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> On 19 April 2012 06:43, Darius Jazayeri <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> We had a very good design call discussion on this, and Burke and I got
>>>> some brief, dense, and helpful insight on this from Jim Webber.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> The key insight: "Dealing with inheritance is easy: REST doesn't do
>>>> it." Basically: think of REST resources as simply exchanging documents.
>>>> There can be links between documents, but they are not allowed to have any
>>>> formal type hierarchy.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> So, after wrapping our heads around that, we've come up with three
>>>> different approaches to hide inheritance in the REST API, each applicable
>>>> to different things in the underlying Java class model:****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *Approach #1 - Subclass links to Superclass*****
>>>>
>>>> *Used for: Person/Patient*****
>>>>
>>>> In the REST API, the subclass document contains only subclass-specific
>>>> attributes, as well as a link to the superclass document. Example:****
>>>>
>>>> GET patient/1234 ->****
>>>>
>>>> {****
>>>>
>>>>     identifiers: [ ... ],****
>>>>
>>>>     person: { ref representation of person/1234 }****
>>>>
>>>> }****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Even though the underlying Patient object inherits from Person, the
>>>> PatientResource should hide this. Thus you cannot edit a birthdate via the
>>>> patient resource, *and* creating a patient requires two POSTs (one to
>>>> create a person resource, the next to create a patient resource that links
>>>> to the person resource).****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *Approach #2 - Hide the Superclass*****
>>>>
>>>> *Used for: ActiveListItem/Allergy/Problem*****
>>>>
>>>> We use this approach when the multiple subclasses are not meaningfully
>>>> related to each other, and they only share a superclass for ease of
>>>> implementation. The REST API has no resource for the superclass. Each
>>>> subclass is its own resource, which contains the union of the properties of
>>>> its superclass and itself.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *Approach #3 - Single Resource for Class Hierarchy*****
>>>>
>>>> *Used for: Concept/ConceptNumeric/ConceptComplex*****
>>>>
>>>> *Used for: Order/DrugOrder/XyzModuleOrder*****
>>>>
>>>> We use this approach when multiple subclasses really are different
>>>> versions of the same basic thing. In other words, they inherit the meaning
>>>> of the superclass, not just its implementation details.****
>>>>
>>>> The REST API has a single resource (Concept, Order) that manages the
>>>> documents for all subclasses. Each document represents an underlying
>>>> instance of some class in the hierarchy, and it contains all properties of
>>>> that class, including inherited ones.****
>>>>
>>>> For example, GET order?patient=1234 ->****
>>>>
>>>> [****
>>>>
>>>>     {****
>>>>
>>>>         type: "org.openmrs.DrugOrder",****
>>>>
>>>>         startDate: "2011-01-01",****
>>>>
>>>>         // other Order properties go here****
>>>>
>>>>         dosage: "100mg",****
>>>>
>>>>         // other DrugOrder properties go here****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [ { rel: "self", uri: "order/11111" } ]****
>>>>
>>>>     },****
>>>>
>>>>     {****
>>>>
>>>>         type: "org.openmrs.Order",****
>>>>
>>>>         startDate: "2011-02-03",****
>>>>
>>>>         // other Order properties go here****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [ { rel: "self", uri: "order/22222" } ]****
>>>>
>>>>     },****
>>>>
>>>>     {****
>>>>
>>>>         type: "org.openmrs.module.lab.LabModuleOrder",****
>>>>
>>>>         startDate: "2011-03-04",****
>>>>
>>>>         // other Order properties go here****
>>>>
>>>>         specimen: { ref representation of a lab specimen },****
>>>>
>>>>         // other LabModuleOrder properties go here****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [ { rel: "self", uri: "order/33333" } ]****
>>>>
>>>>     }****
>>>>
>>>> ]****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I've put a discriminator field in here ("type" might not be a safe
>>>> name) because it seems quite useful, and I think it's necessary for object
>>>> creation.****
>>>>
>>>> For example: POST order****
>>>>
>>>> {****
>>>>
>>>>         type: "org.openmrs.module.lab.LabModuleOrder",****
>>>>
>>>>         startDate: "2011-03-04"   ****
>>>>
>>>> }****
>>>>
>>>> ...will be delegated to the registered handler for LabModuleOrder,
>>>> rather than being handled directly by OrderResource.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Implementation-wise:****
>>>>
>>>>    - we are going to count on the underlying OpenMRS API (and
>>>>    ultimately Hibernate) to work such that if we do
>>>>    OrderService.getOrdersByPatient(1234) we get back a List<Order> whose
>>>>    individual items are actually of their correct subclasses.****
>>>>    - the core RESTWS module, and other modules, need to register
>>>>    handlers for their known subclasses****
>>>>    - we will have to write some code, but that's the fun part. :-)****
>>>>
>>>>  Thoughts?****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Darius****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Burke Mamlin <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> My biggest concern is that it requires that consumers of the API
>>>> know/learn our data model; however, since the person is presented as a
>>>> property of the patient and gender as a property of the person (not the
>>>> patient directly), it's about as good a solution as I can imagine.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Burke****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Darius Jazayeri <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I meant what you said Burke.****
>>>>
>>>> (Hopefully that was my only typo.)****
>>>>
>>>> -Darius (by phone)****
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2012 6:48 PM, "Burke Mamlin" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Darius,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Did you mean to two posts, one to patient & the other to person?  Both
>>>> of yours were to the same resource.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> This implies that if you want to modify a patient's gender *and* 
>>>> identifiers,
>>>> you have to do *two* POSTs.
>>>> For example:
>>>> POST patient/abcd1234 { identifiers: [ ... ] }
>>>> POST *person*/abcd1234 { gender: 'M' }****
>>>>
>>>>  ** **
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Burke****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Darius Jazayeri <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> On tomorrow's design call one topic we will discuss is how to properly
>>>> represent inheritance and subclasses in a RESTful way. Fun and exciting
>>>> background discussion can be found on the ticket:
>>>> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/RESTWS-221. Call-in details are 
>>>> here<https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/RESTWS-221>
>>>> .****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> My proposal, generally supported by Saptarshi, and disliked by Roger,
>>>> is that we represent a subclass as basically the composition of a
>>>> superclass resource, and a subclass resource contains subclass-specific
>>>> properties, and a pointer to the superclass.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> For example: GET patient/abcd1234 ->****
>>>>
>>>> {****
>>>>
>>>>     identifiers: [ ... ], // this is the only Patient-specific property
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>>     links: [****
>>>>
>>>>         { rel: "self", uri: "patient/abcd1234" }****
>>>>
>>>>     ],****
>>>>
>>>>     person: { // this is a pointer to the superclass****
>>>>
>>>>         names: [ ... ],****
>>>>
>>>>         gender: 'M',****
>>>>
>>>>         // other properties on the Person superclass follow ****
>>>>
>>>>         links: [****
>>>>
>>>>             { rel: "self", uri: "person/abcd1234" }****
>>>>
>>>>         ]****
>>>>
>>>>     }****
>>>>
>>>> }****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> This implies that if you want to modify a patient's gender * and* 
>>>> identifiers,
>>>> you have to do *two* POSTs.****
>>>>
>>>> For example:****
>>>>
>>>> POST patient/abcd1234 { identifiers: [ ... ] }****
>>>>
>>>> POST patient/abcd1234 { gender: 'M' }****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to *create* a patient in a single POST, but not
>>>> update one that way.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> At first this seems inconvenient, and unintuitive for someone who's
>>>> used to the OpenMRS Java API. The reason for this is that I think it's
>>>> necessary to support web-standard caching, which allows web service
>>>> scalability. Basically, imagine that someone may be running a reverse-proxy
>>>> on their server, which caches resources generated by the server and serves
>>>> them up to many web clients, relieving server load. In order for that
>>>> reverse-proxy cache to avoid serving up stale data, we cannot allow doing
>>>> POST patient/abc123 to modify the resource at person/abc123. (According to
>>>> web standards, if the cache sees a POST to patient/abc123, this invalidates
>>>> that specific cache entry, but all of this is invisible to the
>>>> server.) Thus my proposal.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I'm only moderately certain I'm approaching this right, so if you know
>>>> or suspect the right answer to this problem (especially if it's different
>>>> from my proposal), please reply and/or join us on the design call tomorrow!
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> -Darius****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> PS- The other topic we'll discuss on the call is Wyclif's proposal for
>>>> a module, that will allow us to reboot our implementation of orders and
>>>> order entry, such that we implement something better, and it runs on both
>>>> old and new versions of OpenMRS. All in all this will be an action-packed
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