hold it right there....
"Volunteers wanted and needed" is just too much for a shed.
Pedro.
>________________________________
> Da: Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
>A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>Inviato: Venerdì 1 Febbraio 2013 18:50
>Oggetto: Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.
>
>On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Dave!
>>>
>>> It's still perfectly visible without being too scandalous. I like it.
>>>
>>> Now for a new bikeshed ... I would use "Volunteers wanted", instead of
>>> "Volunteers needed" ;).
>>
>> Semantics are important!
>>
>
>We want them because we need them. If we didn't need them, we'd still
>welcome them but we wouldn't advertise it on the homepage. So yes,
>semantics are important, but this is not an either/or thing. We both
>need and want volunteers.
>
>-Rob
>
>>>
>>> Just kidding ... :).
>>
>> It's not a bikeshed it is a good point! Done!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Pedro.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> Da: Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
>>>> A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Inviato: Venerdì 1 Febbraio 2013 17:49
>>>> Oggetto: Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Tanja Meece wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Red immediately sends up a warning flag in my mind and that of other
>>>>> user's
>>>>> I'm sure.
>>>>
>>>> That was the original intent.
>>>>
>>>>> There has to be some way to change the color.
>>>>
>>>> There is and it is done! It is now the same blue as the rest of the header
>>>> text.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TMCM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2013 9:43 AM, "Pedro Giffuni" <p...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> Da: Dave Fisher
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Can we change the red title in the website ("Call for Volunteers",
>>>>>>>>> as of lately) to dark blue?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reasons:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The tone of red chosen looks like it was made to fit at the last
>>>>>>>>> moment. It has no aesthetic coherence with the rest of the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was chosen quickly and I was thinking it would be for unusual events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I hope I am doing this properly, if not I apologize in
>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree. I believe that a red sends the wrong signals. It sends up
>>>>> more of a warning flag, rather than an invitation for volunteers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The first time I saw it I thought I'd done something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall it started when we were about to release 3.4 and the blog went
>>>>>> down so we just had to release on the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now it appears to be a common element which is OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is being changed everytime there's something to communicate:
>>>>>> Like if we break (yet) another download milestone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The red chair is becoming part of the furniture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - It makes us look desperate (or so seem to think some bloggers).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The concern should be "what works?" Not "what some bloggers think".
>>>>>>>> Breaking out from the visual clutter of the page is important. We want
>>>>>>>> to stand out, not blend in and be overlooked. IMHO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like blue if it will always be there
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect we will have it forever :(.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh course there are other ways of standing out, like with a banner
>>>>>>>> graphic. That could give us a more professional image while still
>>>>>>>> standing out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What ever can be done...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, just chose a color for the bikeshed that seems average
>>>>>> among the proposals ;).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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