Hi, What I mean isthatI would liketo participate in development of this extension
At 2013-03-13 22:33:43,"Jürgen Schmidt" <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 3/13/13 3:04 PM, 2 wrote: >> Hi, this is a wonderful extension, I would like to take a look, how can I >> get it? > >you can't get the extension at the moment and it would not help you. The >extension works only with a server backend and/or a valid account. > >And I think the extension is still under development... > > >Juergen > >> >> >> >> 在 2013-03-13 21:30:26,"Jürgen Schmidt" <jogischm...@gmail.com> 写道: >>> On 2/7/13 5:30 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>>> On 2/7/13 5:08 PM, Kai Labusch wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I'm a colleague of Robert Barbey at Acrolinx and I'm working on the >>>>> OpenOffice >>>>> Writer integration of our client-server text-processing solution. >>>>> Currently, we already have a working writer extension that has been >>>>> implemented in java and provides the functionality we need. >>>>> For the implementation, we had to modify the AOO sources and add/change >>>>> some >>>>> API-functions/interfaces. >>>>> >>>>> Robert already posted a call-for-review for a modification of the >>>>> XSmartTagRecognizer interface ("[Call-for-Review] Extension to >>>>> XSmartTagRecognizer interface", >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121391). We modified this >>>>> patch >>>>> request according to suggestions of Ariel and Jürgen and submitted a new >>>>> patch >>>>> request that is also mentioned in this post. >>>>> >>>>> During development of our writer extension we stumbled on a number of >>>>> issues >>>>> where we felt the need to modify something within AOO. >>>>> The purpose of this post is to provide a summary of these changes and to >>>>> ask >>>>> for comments and input since there might be better ways to solve the >>>>> problems >>>>> we had without the need to change something within AOO. >>>>> >>>>> We splitted all the modifications in five different patch-sets where each >>>>> patch-set contains a number of changes that belong to a common aspect. >>>>> We submitted the patch-sets via bugzilla and I will refer to them in this >>>>> post >>>>> later on. >>>>> >>>>> First, as a motivation, I would like to describe the most important >>>>> aspects of >>>>> what our writer extension does: >>>>> >>>>> The extension adds a toolbar and menu to the writer application. The menu >>>>> and >>>>> toolbar have a "check"-button/entry that can be used in order to >>>>> simultaneously check the document for different types of issues. >>>>> >>>>> Among others, issues can be: >>>>> - spelling errors >>>>> - grammar errors >>>>> - style rules (like "Don't use Future tense", "Don't use passive voice") >>>>> - reuse (use a different/better phrase that already has been approved due >>>>> to >>>>> some reason) >>>>> - terminology (use a different word) >>>>> - sentence break missing >>>>> - broken link >>>>> - sentence too long >>>>> - wrong capitalization >>>>> >>>>> If the user clicks the check-button, the writer extension would extract >>>>> the >>>>> text of the document and send it to a server application. >>>>> The server application performs a linguistic analysis of the document and >>>>> creates a report of all issues that have been identified. >>>>> The writer extension then receives the report and marks the issues within >>>>> the >>>>> writer document. >>>>> >>>>> For each issue, a smarttag is shown where its type is depicted by the >>>>> color of >>>>> the smarttag line (colors can be configured, for instance: spelling -> >>>>> red, >>>>> grammar -> blue, style-> green ...). >>>>> >>>>> The extension does not only send the text of the document to the >>>>> linguistic >>>>> server but also context information like character-style, >>>>> paragraph-style, >>>>> font-type. The linguistic rules within the server application are context >>>>> sensitive, i.e., they might behave differently depending on the context >>>>> of a >>>>> particular part of the text (for instance different capitalization in >>>>> titles). >>>>> >>>>> Furthermore, they are also context sensitive with respect to the >>>>> surrounding >>>>> text, i.e., it is not sufficient to consider only one or two words (for >>>>> instance "sentence too long"). The context can be quite large since the >>>>> system >>>>> can be configured so that certain document structures (entire paragraphs, >>>>> footnotes, image captions...) are considered as parenthetic elements >>>>> which >>>>> are removed from the normal text-flow or completely ignored. Since the >>>>> outcome >>>>> of the checking process can depend on the entire document, it is not >>>>> possible >>>>> to perform the check based on a part of the text as it is done in some >>>>> proofreading APIs. >>>>> >>>>> Due to the reasons mentioned above, it is neccessary that the smarttag >>>>> extension can globally identify and localize a particular part of the >>>>> text >>>>> within the entire document. Therefore, we felt the need to introduce a >>>>> new >>>>> interface "XRangeBasedSmartTagRecognizer" that can be optionally >>>>> implemented >>>>> in a smarttag extension. The smarttag manager inside AOO would check if a >>>>> smarttag recognizer implements this additional interface. If the >>>>> interface has >>>>> been implemented, the smarttag manager would call "recognizeTextRange" >>>>> which >>>>> provides a globally identifiable text range to the recognizer >>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121730). >>>>> >>>>> To enable the marking of text by means of such a text-range, we extended >>>>> the >>>>> XTextMarkup interface >>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121734). >>>>> >>>>> To make colored smarttags possible, we felt the need to modify >>>>> SwWrongArea and >>>>> the lcl_DrawWrongListData function within the AOO sources >>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121733). >>>>> >>>>> If the user clicks on a smarttag, he/she gets a context menu that offers >>>>> actions to improve the document. What these actions are depends on the >>>>> type >>>>> and context of the marked part of the text. Depending on the type of >>>>> issue and >>>>> the actual issue itself the number of actions might vary. >>>>> In order to make this possible, we felt the need to modify the >>>>> XSmartTagAction >>>>> interface (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121731). >>>>> >>>>> If the user applies some action to the document, the action could >>>>> invalidate >>>>> other smartags at different locations in the document. For instance, the >>>>> begin >>>>> and the end of a sentence is marked as a result of a "sentence too long"- >>>>> issue. If the users chooses the "ignore"-action of the begin-smarttag, >>>>> the >>>>> corresponding end-smarttag would be removed too. Furthermore, the menu >>>>> and >>>>> toolbar have buttons/entries to hide/show the smarttags that are related >>>>> to >>>>> our extension. Therefore, we added a new interface "XMarkingAccess" that >>>>> is >>>>> implemented by SwXTextCursor and can be used in order to invalidate and >>>>> repaint/remove/recolor the smartags within a particular text-range >>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121732). >>>>> >>>>> We would like to present our modifications to the community since we >>>>> think >>>>> that they might add desirable functionality to AOO that enables the >>>>> implementation of more powerful smarttag-extensions that could not be >>>>> realized >>>>> before. >>>>> >>>>> Here at Acrolinx, we have set up an AOO build environment for >>>>> Windows/Linux/OSX which provides us with a patched AOO that can already >>>>> be >>>>> used together with our software. In the long run, we would like to >>>>> integrate >>>>> our software into a standard version of AOO. >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking forward to your comments and criticism. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Kai Labusch >>>>> >>>> >>>> just to let you know that I will take a look on it later, it seems I >>>> will need a few minutes ... >>>> >>>> But I appreciate that you take our concerns serious and reworked on your >>>> patch. Your extension will be definitely useful. >>> >>> sorry for the delay but I have taken a look on it now and I am in >>> general fine with the patch. By the way Kai send me off-list a combined >>> patch for all issues that I have applied locally and tested. >>> >>> I found a few things that I had to correct. >>> >>> - a missing include of XInterface in the new IDL XMarkingAccess.idl, IDL >>> compile error on Mac, surprising that it worked for you >>> - checking if xPropertyBag is valid in wrong.hxx because my Java Test >>> SmartTag insert a null interface for XStringKeyMap >>> >>> >>> The interface name "XMarkingAccess" and the method name >>> "invalidateMarkings" sounds somewhat strange but I have to confess that >>> I don't have a much better name in place. Maybe somebody else has a good >>> name in mind? >>> >>> My Test SmartTag implementation worked quite well after I have made 2 >>> minor changes >>> - adapt the changed method name: commitTextMarkup -> commitStringMarkup >>> - add new additional parameter XStringKeyMap to method >>> XSmartTagAction.getActionCount(...) >>> >>> If nobody raised further concerns or come up with a better name for the >>> new interface XMarkingAccess I plan to integrate it later this week. >>> >>> @Kai, I hope we will see more from you and you will make use of the >>> opportunity to enhance/extend an open source program with general new >>> features to make use of them later on in your own extension. But others >>> can benefit from the new enhancements as well. Or you help us to fix >>> issues that prevent you from using AOO. I think this exactly is the key >>> of open source and our opportunity to build an eco system around >>> OpenOffice. It must be possible to add value on top of or to AOO >>> (proprietary or free) to open further business opportunities. In your >>> case it is to make AOO ready for enterprises to use your powerful, >>> professional proof reading software (more than a grammar checker). I >>> think this is a very nice example and I am looking forward to further >>> contributions from you. >>> >>> Once it is integrated I would like to write a blog entry about it >>> together with you to make this more visible. It is exactly what AOO >>> needs to grow effectively. >>> >>> And more general we should blog about all new features, important bug >>> fixes, etc that somebody brings in the office. We should blog about all >>> the good things we are doing, the logo contest, the QA, the translation ... >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >