On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 19 April 2013 13:29, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 18 April 2013 21:58, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > janI wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 18 April 2013 13:13, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> Where would like survey.openoffice.org to point to ?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, let's avoid using unofficial domains when we can redirect an
> > > > official subdomain. Redirecting the DNS won't pose a big burden on
> > Infra
> > > > and just requires (lazy) consensus here.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >   Andrea.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 23 hours, not bad for "month-long wrestling match with
> > > Infra to get something like this set up" !!!
> > >
> > > The patch I made for dns is up and running. you can open "
> > > survey.openoffice.org". BUT something is not working in the other end,
> > > reply comes from hostmonster, with a possibilities to buy cars erc.
> > >
> > >
> > The DNS stuff had to happen first, and only then I can get it working on
> my
> > end.
> >
> >
> >
> > > and yes I am a direct person, I like to tell people when they do
> > something
> > > good and visa versa, but I dont like assuming ill behaivour....but that
> > is
> > > just my way, and I am sorry if my direct way offended someone....but
> look
> > > infra got their part done, without wrestling.
> > >
> > >
> > I'm not assuming bad behavior.  I was just stating that I don't have the
> > time to guess whether this is an occasion where we get a fast response
> or a
> > slow one.  The response time from Infra, IMHO, is entirely unpredictable.
> > I have another DNS-related Infra request that are no more complicated and
> > have waited almost a year.  It looks like we were fortunate this time.
> >
>
> or we have a better connection now :-) think about the other infra things
> that have happened lately (wiki, new translate, proxy setup), the ones I
> know off have all had resonable response time
>
> I was not trying to shoot at you, I just have another impression of
> infra...but of course, I am not neutral.
>
>
> Our need to pick a logo design is very predictable and the time line for
> > that must go forward.  So I was happy to move forward with this either
> > way.  If I can avoid a dependency on Infra that is a good thing, not a
> bad
> > one.
> >
>
> completely correct, but if the price is to have a non openoffice.org site,
> it is at least a high price to pay.
>
> Using a non-openoffice.org site is a non-issue.  We've gathered user
> opinions on Google Moderator and Facebook, without problems.  Other groups
> in the ASF have used Google Docs-based surveys.   No one has ever raised
> concerns about using 3rd party services for this.  This is not a "high
> price to pay".
>

In any case, my practice remains -- and I'm sure most in Infra would agree
with me here -- if you can do something without having a dependency on
Apache Infra it is a good thing.  Let them focus on things that only they
can do.  Self-service is a good thing.

-Rob


> >
> >
> > > @rob: can you please have a look at your end, you need problaly to add
> it
> > > as a vhost.
> > >
> > >
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> > > I am not sure what the survey actually is, some kind of py/perl/js, I
> can
> > > get an idea, I can think about how we can move it to our own site.
> > >
> > >
> > It is a PHP app, LimeSurvey.  Pre-reqs are listed here:
> >
> >
> >
> http://manual.limesurvey.org/wiki/Installation#1._Make_sure_you_can_use_LimeSurvey_on_your_website
> >
>
> thx for the link, I will have a look at it.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> > > rgds
> > > Jan I.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
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