On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:28 AM, janI wrote:

> On 21 July 2013 16:25, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 July 2013 16:03, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:07 AM, janI wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 21 July 2013 03:34, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi MWiki,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The MWiki is missing a few key items:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#navigation
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is guidance for  the "project website".  That website is
>>>>>> http://openoffice.apache.org, yes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is policy for project sites. The Mwiki is a project site and the
>>>>> target for a feather link is mandated to be www.apache.org and not an
>>>>> internal wiki page that says nothing much about Apache.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> @dave, I do agree with you that this is guideline that should be
>>> followed,
>>>> however I have NOT removed the feather, and when I look at the css
>>> before I
>>>> started doing maintenance I cannot see.
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone remember if it has ever been there, and advice where it was ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course, the project also works with several other websites, from
>>>>>> www.openoffice.org to Bugzilla to CWiki to Forums to Blogs to MWiki
>>> to
>>>>>> Extensions and Templates.  If we think these rules apply to all
>>>>>> project-related websites, then we have a much bigger set of items to
>>>>>> work on, not just MWiki.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing at a time. The Forums were just adjusted. Extensions site is
>>>>> much closer to correct than the MWiki.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see that I need to change the footer on www.openoffice.org. Done,
>>> but
>>>>> staged only. I don't want to publish if other AOO4 changes are pending.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Left Navigation:
>>>>>>> (1) A link back to the main openoffice.apache.org.
>>>>>>> (2) A link back to the main www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>> (3) "Main Page" is misleading and should be something like "Wiki Home
>>>>> Page".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that additions here would help, but I am not a strong advocate.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, it would help to update the whole wiki, something we have been
>>>> discussing from time to time here on the list. But until now nobody have
>>>> volunteered to help make a new design.
>>> 
>>> I volunteered to help when we did www.openoffice.org, but that was
>>> before your time when there was no MWiki sysadmin. Are the MWiki templates
>>> in the Apache Infrastructure SVN? If so, with a few pointers I can see what
>>> it would take to make changes.
>>> 
>> 
>> Only the Aoo template is in svn, because all others are standard installed
>> from the release.
>> 
>> All changes made on top of ver 1.25 are stored in
>> 
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki2-vm.apache.org/x1/wiki
>> 
>> This is the structure that infra uses for vm specific changes.
>> 
>> Be aware that in order to "stage" changes, /x1/wiki exist on the vm, but
>> the files need to copied to /x1/mwiki (live directory) before being active
>> (documented in the runbook).
>> 
>> I have also installed "wikitest.o.o", in order to be able to test upgrades
>> safely. I used that for layout changes, in order not to interrupt the live
>> system, before my changes actually worked.
>> 
>> I am not working on ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o, so any changes you do will not
>> conflict with other work.
>> 
> 
> Sorry for double posting, but I forgot an important issue.
> 
> Mwiki present itself in different languages automatically, so if you add
> text, the easiest is to reuse texts that are already translated. Adding new
> text with automatic translation is possible, but would of course require
> translation.

Thanks for the pointer. With my Apache Member karma I will be able to look and 
grab the source code. I plan to submit patches the first few times and earn any 
Mwiki karma in the correct way.

I am not sure if I will be able to get to it today, but I will definitely put 
it toward the top of my Apache backlog.

FYI - my day to day is looking at Apache MLs and mentoring the new Apache 
OLingo (OData) podling.


> 
> rgds
> jan I.
> 
> 
>> 
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan I
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Footer:
>>>>>>> (1) NO trademark attribution.
>>>>>>> (2) The Apache Feather on the lower left is broken and goes to a bad
>>>>> place. - it must link to http://www.apache.org/
>>>>>>> (3) Linked to About page needs an update -
>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:About
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Footer also says "Content is available under", which is incomplete.  I
>>>>>> assume something completed that sentence at one point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think there was something about a license.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wonder whether it makes sense to just copy what we have from
>>>>>> www.openoffice.org and use the same footer on MWiki as well, with
>>>>>> links for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Copyright & License | Privacy | Contact Us | Donate | Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or, if we need to add additional items, do so in a way that keeps the
>>>>>> wiki and www.openoffice.org footers the same.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can agree with that. The admins may need to pull some css over as
>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is openoffice.org footer.html with the above change plus the
>>>>> relevant css
>>>>> 
>>>>> <div id="footera">
>>>>>   <div id="poweredbya"><p><a href="http://www.apache.org/";><img
>>>>> src="/images/feather-small.gif" alt="Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation"/></p></a></div>
>>>>>   <div id="copyrighta">
>>>>>     <p style="text-align:center;">
>>>>>       <a href="/license.html">Copyright &amp; License</a> | <a
>>>>> href="/privacy.html">Privacy</a> | <a href="/contact_us.html">Contact
>>>>> Us</a> | <a href="
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html#Paypal";>Donate</a>
>>> |
>>>>> <a href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html";>Thanks</a>
>>>>>     </p>
>>>>>     <p>
>>>>>       Apache, the Apache feather logo, and OpenOffice are trademarks
>>> of
>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>       OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are registered trademarks of
>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>       Other names appearing on the site may be trademarks of their
>>>>> respective owners.
>>>>>     </p>
>>>>>   </div>
>>>>> </div>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the related css
>>>>> 
>>>>> #footera {
>>>>> margin: 20px 0px 0px 0px;
>>>>> padding: 8px 0px 12px 0px;
>>>>> border-top: 2px solid #ccc;
>>>>> color:#666;
>>>>> font-size: 8pt;
>>>>> padding: 0 8px;
>>>>> text-align: left;
>>>>> overflow: auto;
>>>>> clear: both;
>>>>> line-height: 10pt;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #copyrighta {
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #copyrighta p {
>>>>> padding-left: 20px;
>>>>> line-height: 10pt;
>>>>> padding-bottom: 5px;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #copyrighta a {
>>>>> color: #107EC0;
>>>>> text-decoration:underline;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #copyrighta a:hover {
>>>>> background-color: #e6ebed;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #poweredby {
>>>>> float: right;
>>>>> text-align: right;
>>>>> width: 210px;
>>>>> height: 100px;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> #asf-logo {
>>>>> width: 180px;
>>>>> padding-top: 20px;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Dave
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