On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 09/05/2013 10:20 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 09/05/2013 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 09/04/2013 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure anyone else can read that.  It might be tied to a cookie.
>>>>>>     But I ran a test to render the download page on 135 browser/os
>>>>>> combinations.  It returns a PNG screenshot for each rendering.  I
>>>>>> looked for which combinations did not render the green download box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There were 5 failures.  Two I don't think we care about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dillo 3.0.2 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kazehakase 0.5.8 / Debian 6.0 (squeeze)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And 3 that we should care about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSIE 5.5 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSIE 6.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSIE 7.0 / Windows 2008 R2 (Server)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't agree here. Why do we have to support stone-old browsers?
>>>>> Because
>>>>> they are available on a browser testing website? Come on. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm concerned with the error, since it it impacts the more modern IE 6
>>>> and
>>>> 7.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at visits to our website over the past month I see this many
>>>> users:
>>>>
>>>> IE 10 -- 857,499
>>>> IE 9 -- 250,591
>>>> IE 8 -- 420,215
>>>> IE 7 -- 69,914
>>>> IE 6 -- 27,172
>>>> IE 5.5 -- 69
>>>>
>>>> So we're still getting nearly 100K visits/month from these older IE
>>>> versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 69 are not really impressive. But 27,000+ for MSIE 6 is surprising.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_5
>>>>>
>>>>> It's old, MS is no longer supporting it, so IMHO it's done. Nearly the
>>>>> same
>>>>> for 6.0.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right.  But here is a common scenario.  You need to reinstall Windows
>>>> on a machine.  Say it is XP or Vista.  Both are supported today, but
>>>> both have older browsers by default.  Of course, the first thing you
>>>> do on a new machine is run the Windows Updates.  But in parallel with
>>>> that you are downloading other software you need, Acrobat Reader, anti
>>>> virus, 7-Zip, Notepad++, etc.,  and Apache OpenOffice.   So you might
>>>> end up with IE 8 in the end, after all the patches are applied.  But
>>>> you start your work with an earlier version,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would expect that these people first get the basics up-to-date, then
>>> other
>>> applications.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> The IE versions all give the same script error:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if all browsers show the same error then a fix could get back
>>>>> all 3
>>>>> into life at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, let's concentrate on the error.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Line 330, Char 1, Code 0, Expected identifier, string or number
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an odd place for an error, since that appears to be in the
>>>>>> middle of the commented out block for beta releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, if you search in the "index.html" which indeed doesn't make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> When looking into "download.js" then you are in the middle of the
>>>>> "getFilesize()" function. But I've no idea what the problematic point
>>>>> could
>>>>> be there.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if it could be
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/release_matrix.js?  Could it be a
>>>> coincidence that that file is exactly 329 lines long and the error is
>>>> claimed to be in line 330?  Maybe that unnecessary comma at the end of
>>>> line 328 is the issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hm, and what about "languages.js"? It has also a semicolon at the end but
>>> the file has only 108 lines. In the "index.html" it will be imported
>>> before
>>> the "release_matrix.js" (I don't know if this really the case) but there
>>> is
>>> no hint for error.
>>>
>>> Anyway, let's try. In the test area:
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other.html
>>>
>>> I've committed the deletion of the characters in both files. I think we
>>> need
>>> to wait another 24h until we are allowed to use Browsershots.org again,
>>> right? - At least this is my experience.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know if that restriction is per client IP address or per host,
>
>
> It's about the tested website that triggers the limit. It doesn't matter who
> or which IP is requesting the test.
>
>
>> but we're blocked either way, because of robots.txt on staging:
>
>
> OK yes, the staging area.
>
>
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/robots.txt
>>
>> But if it is OK to publish those changes we should be able to run
>> another test now.
>
>
> Hm, I decided to publish the changes already yesterday. To bad that I've not
> changed the links from staged to live, sorry. ;-(
>
> Please try again with the real webpages.
>

Same errors.

I think it is the trailing comma on the last entry in the array.  I
changed in it download/test/release_matrix.js and will test it again
tomorrow.

-Rob

> Thanks
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
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