On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 Jose R R <jose....@metztli.com> wrote:
> Niltze- > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest <hagar.del...@laposte.net> > wrote: > > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : > > > >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted > >> things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of > >> Linux, > >> or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking. > >> > >> 1) We do a blog whose main subject is AOO and Linux and interview some of > >> our Linux volunteers/users (hopefully a nice dstro cross section -- > >> Fedora, Ubuntu. openSUSE, Mint?) and ask them why they're using AOO and > >> how > >> did they find the installation given that it isn't available in their > >> existing repositories. > >> > >> -- or -- > >> > >> 2) We do a Linux centered blog on what support we provide for Linux, what > >> Linux packages AOO provides wtih additional distribution details, and why > >> they're not in repositories for distributions. On the latter point, I'm > >> thinking talk about whose job this is, etc. > >> > >> I think we really should do something a bit more visible on this topic, > >> and > >> hopefully some of the open source press can pick it up. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > > IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is too > > buggy. > > So I think that basically, we are back to the question: why AOO is still not > > available in the standard packages? > > > > As long as it is not easily available, users won't bother removing another > > application to install AOO. Especially if it involves command line (to > > install but also sometimes to remove the default suite). > [..] > > On an initial Debian installation, if GNOME is selected, it will > install LO by default. > > Accordingly the burden falls on the user to remove LO: > > $ sudo su > $ apt-get purge libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-common > libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk > libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math > libreoffice-writer I have no experience with Debian as a distro, only with Debian derivatives such as Ubuntu. As far as I know, it is only necessary to sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-core to remove all libreoffice, before installing OpenOffice. > > Note, however that, once downloaded, it is not intuitive for a > relatively novice (i.e., Ubuntu user) to install ApacheOO since after > expanding its *.tar.gz file, there appears a directory: en-US (or > whatever the locale selected). > > The user then must become root (super user) or prefix su to install at > /opt/ privileged directory: > > $ sudo su > $ dpkg -i en-US/DEBS/*deb > > AND then still there is no link for the the user with normal > privileges to start up ApacheOO from the normal PATH directory > /usr/bin/. And thus root privilege is required again to create the > appropriate symlink there; the most simple one (I think) and that > would not be overwritten by an subsequent (accidental installation of > LO) would be: > > $ sudo su > $ cd /usr/bin > $ ln -s /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice apacheeoo > $ cd /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice > $ ln -s soffice.bin apacheoo.bin > > The above just creates a symbolic link required due to our use of > apacheoo instead of the default soffice/soffice.bin that is used by LO > as well. > > Now the Ubuntu user would have to create executable icons for the > ApacheeOO productivity apps to match the default LO that is now > removed. On the other hand, those of us who don't care simply start > ApacheOO from a shell as a normal user now: > > $ apacheoo & > > Is it obvious now -- as MS did before by preinstalling its own > constrained software and denying users the freedom of choice -- why > ApacheOO may be lacking traction on GNU/Linux? > > > Best Professional Regards. > > -- > Jose R R > http://www.metztli-it.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > NEW Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1! Download for GNU/Linux, Mac OS, Windows. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daylight Saving Time in USA & Canada ends: Sunday, November 02, 2014 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
