Am 05/30/2014 06:11 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:

To avoid the text wrap in the sub-green box as long as possible, I've
moved the links with icon below the 3 text lines and added the checksum
verify link also.

IMHO this is the best compromise between "avoid text wrapping" and "don't
increase size for fonts and boxes".

Marcus


It's better for me this way. Thanks. I'll send you another png.

thanks for the screenshot. Yes, way better. :-)

Marcus



Am 05/30/2014 12:24 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

  Am 05/30/2014 01:50 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:



On 05/29/2014 04:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/30/2014 12:55 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:



On 05/29/2014 03:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

OK, here is another update:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html


I like it! This seems very versatile for us. also see below ...


thanks. :-)

Please see also my separate mail with a design question.

  What was updated?

- Disabled the old green box for now. Put the focus to the new.

- Using the $NL_LANG variable in "index.html" will pre-set a language
instead of using the browser-guessed language.

- Added hint text - directly below the headline - that the download
comes from Sourceforge.

- Added data for 4.0.1 and 4.0.0, so all 4.x versions are working.

- The 2 links with icons got a cursor with "help" sign.

- When choosing not fitting selections, this is shown to the user
with a
hint text what the alternative is.
Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with "not allowed" sign.
Examples:
- Mac OS X 64-bit and AOO 4.0.1 or AOO 4.0.0
- Mac OS X 32-bit and AOO 4.1.0
- Hebrew and AOO 4.0.1

- When browsing with an unsupported OS (that means, other than
Windows,
Linux and Mac) then the user gets a hint text that this is not
supported and what to do as alternative.
Then 2 download buttons got a cursor with "not allowed" sign.



What is next?

- Do we want to offer AOO 3.4.1 as last stable 3.x release?

- Updating the "Full vs. Langpack" text in separate window.

- Updating the "analyze.html" webpage to use it as "broken link
reporting tool".

- Separate code and strings.
Then it will be easier to use the same download webpage on all
localized websites, get the same look&  feel everywhere but with the
freedom to translate the text.



Testing:

- Testing via Browsershots.org is somewhat challenging. Often the
requests are expiring before the screenshots are ready.


I am having some slight formatting issues. Not all text that I think is
supposed to fit in the green box is actually IN the green box. Maybe
due
to my font size preferences or resolution. I will send you a
screenshot.


Thanks for the screenshot.

In the sub-green box between the left and right part of text + links,
there has to be some space. If this is not available, the text is
wrapped-up.

Also the text in the both light-blue boxes on the bottom, the text is
wrapped-up.

Furthermore the footer text is wrapped-up into 3 lines instead of 2.

I can see all problems also with Browsershots.org. There the browser
windows are clearly too small.

Do you use a smaller screen resolution?


My resolution is 1920x1080

  The browser window is not full screen?


correct...I almost never do full screen

  Do you have a bigger zoom factor active in the browser? Then use [Ctrl]
+ [0] (or similar) to normalize.


well, my eyes are not the best. So, I have a larger minimize font than a
lot of folks I guess. And, I don't want to change that.


I'm sure it would look good if the browser window is displayed in full
screen. If you want you could test this. Of course you can change it
back afterwards.

  I was hoping this could be helped by some CSS changes, but...maybe not :/


When your screen resolution is 1920x1080 then the browser window is half
or 2/3 or 3/4 of full screen. Which is small enough to produce this
wrapped-up text.

I could try to optimize this, e.g., to enlarge the sub-green box,
re-arrange the text or use a smaller font. However, as smaller the
window is, as larger the effort will be to make it still look good.

Marcus



  And still no IE available. :-(

But it looks good so far on Windows, Linux and Mac with Firefox,
Chrome, Opera and Safari.

Do you still have some more suggestions?

Thanks :-)

Marcus



Am 05/19/2014 12:47 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

This weekend just a little update as I was not able to do more work
(healthy problem):

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

- The [Reset] button is gone.

- Styled the 3 select boxes as the default look&  feel is, hm, just
default. ;-)

- Styled the both download buttons more eye-catching. To keep it
simply
I've intentionally avoided to use graphics as I think a text
button is
better suited here.

- The icons and links for "full install vs. langpack info" and
"Report
broken link" were moved to the sub-green box. Because it's terrible
difficult to keep the text and link status correctly updated for
different selected values.

Marcus



Am 05/04/2014 06:37 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/
index_droplist.html

What was done:

- Grey box:

- Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.
- The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.
- The information link has now a (i) icon.
- Added a "Report broken link" - pointing to the debug webpage.
The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
additional text link.
(Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
report function.)
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean.

- Green box:

- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.

- Links:

- I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
- In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
- Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.

What is not yet working:

- The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than
4.1.0.
It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
available build for every release in the past.
- The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
it's indeed no longer necessary?

What do you think?

What are the next steps:

- Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
- Improve the styling of the both download links.
- Combine the both green boxes.

- And further suggestions from you.

Thanks in advance for testing. :-)

Marcus



Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

I've done some further work.

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/
index_droplist.html


What is working:

- Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it
to get
to a help text for "full install vs. langpack".
- Some release data is shown like in the green box.

What is not yet working:

- The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows
already how
it could work (likely).

- I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not
working.

What are the next steps:

- Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the
right
hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if
not needed here, etc.

In general, this should result in a clean-up.

- Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older
releases.

After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with
your
further comments and suggestions.

So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment.

Thanks

Marcus



Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Thanks a lot for your input.

A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the
choice
order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed.
But the
most need more time.

Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0
release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need
work-free
days are coming. :-)

Marcus



Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a
long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the "other.html" is now easy to maintain
for us
but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the
main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/
index_droplist.html



Please don't look too close to look&  feel - sure the grey
color is
not
the best one ;-) - this can and will be improved for sure.

For now please have a look for the functionality via the
drop-down
boxes
and the then created links below them.

What do you think? is this a direction we can/should go in
general?
Or do you have complete different thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Marcus



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