[getting back to this old thread for a moment. See below]

On 09/23/2015 11:01 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I see there was a historical attempt to upgrade the build environment
>>> to gbuild which migrated some modules
>>> (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort), and a
>>> more recent attempt, Capstone 2013, to get AOO to build in Visual
>>> Studio.
>>>
>>> Have we chosen a final build system yet?
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is that I became quite familiar with gbuild in the
>>> course of migrating our unit tests to Google Test, and have already
>>> successfully migrated one dmake module (formula) to gbuild, so if
>>> there are no objections, I am going commit those changes and carry on
>>> migrating other modules.
>>>
>>
>> Go for it! When you say "migration" do you mean a COMPLETE changeover or
>> would we have both the dmake approach and gbuild for a time? It's important
>> to use a build system that has more universal acceptance in my opinion.
> 
> The ultimate goal is a complete changeover, but of course I plan to do
> it slowly and carefully, a module at a time, testing on all platforms
> before committing, and aim for the intermediate goal documented at the
> end of 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort/Module_Migration,
> which is to migrate the "late" modules building after svx first, so
> that a single GNU make process can then be used for them all and
> build.pl for them eliminated. Then, I presume, the rest of the modules
> can be gradually pulled into this "good" module group.
> 
>> IMO, the important thing is to use gbuild and not necessarily emphasize the
>> Visual Studio aspect.
> 
> +1.
> 
>> And, THANK YOU for taking this on.
> 
> Pleasure, and help is welcome ;-).

== HELP, TOO MANY MAKEFILES ==

I started looking at what's been done so far. And, due to the fact
that dmake also uses makefiles, what's the correct way to invoke GNU
make for a build? It looks like the "main" makefile for what's been
migrated so far is /main/Module_ooo.mk (?)

Is there any way to test our actual make file changes on a per
module basis?


> 
>>>
>>> Our current hybrid build.pl + dmake/gbuild system is complex, ugly,
>>> slow, unreliable, and hard to maintain, and I believe it's also a
>>> barrier of entry for new developers
>>>
>>
>> I think many of us would agree with this. Although, the current build.pl
>> does provide some nicety in its own way.
>>
>>
>>> (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_System_Analysis). LO has
>>> already migrated their build system to pure gbuild. Shouldn't we?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Damjan
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”
>>                                                           --Lao Tzu
> 
> Damjan
> 
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