Am 29.08.26 um 16:12 schrieb Pedro Lino via dev:
Thank you for kicking off the discussion.
Full Focus:
Windows 10 and 11. This should be our main goal to fully support.
Agreed.
The x64 build is already the most complete and stable release.
Updating from 4.1.16 x86 to 4.5 (or whatever future name) x64 is
straightforward without any loss of extensions or settings in the profile.
The only exception would be those extensions that are specifically compiled for
x86 (such as the Hybrid PDF importer) which seems to be a very marginal problem.
Windows 8.1, and windows 7 with latest service packs.
Here the approach would be best to have a best effort.
even when the new AOO 64-bit is working fine also on Windows 7 and 8.1,
but the newest (or any Python) cannot be used, I would ship it. Better
this AOO version as no version.
Agreed (since there are no statistics for the number of AOO users on Win7)
But if the x64 installer is updated to work on Win7 all problems (except
Python?) are possibly already solved?
No support:
Windows Vista, Windows XP
These are definitly eol.
Yeah, even when it's a bit sad (as we have supported these Win versions
much longer than even Microsoft) but some day the time will come where
this is ending.
As a little reminder how long ago this is already: ;-)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/deployment/updates-lifecycle/what-does-it-mean-if-windows-isn-t-supported
Agreed. But a message should be added in the Download page warning users that
for Windows Vista/XP the final version available was 4.1.xx
Currently the installer is win10, I dont think it is a big deal to
downgrade it to win7.
AOO itself is currently still winxp/2k API. I have code to push to
win10, but not for win7.
These two really need to match to Win7 (if Win7 is this group's decision)
If technically possible and sensible I would draw the line at Windows 7
as minimal version.
Regarding the 32bit (aka x86) installer and office suite, I have no idea how
useful this really is. Microsoft does have a 32bit version of Windows 10 (but
not of Windows 11). But where is it used? What proportion of OpenOffice users
really need a 32bit Office?
What i dont know is how to deal with our Languages. Should i check if we
could pimp the installer?
That would be fantastic.
You download one multilanguage installer, AOO version is always us-en.
And the installer offers a language picker, which downloads the language
file and installs the selected ones.
would save us a lot of release space.
That would be perfect.
And as an additional touch of improvement: the language installer/pack would
include the latest version of the Spell Checker/Thesaurus for the selected
language (as currently does the full installer for supported languages)
Even when this topic also deserves its own thread, I would second it
when we have estimated the effort to support this way of upgrading software.
Migration from 32-bit to 64-bit is a thing of mostly changing existing
lines of code - plus addition here and there, but a changed installation
would need new lines of code incl. new translation of new dialogs.
Of course, I don't stop anyone from developing this. But just would to
point out that it is not easy.
Marcus
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