Jürgen Schmidt írta:
Hi Kami,
sorry for the late response.
Okay, I thing you have more to do than drop a line to me :o)
KAMI wrote:
Ciao!
Jürgen Schmidt írta:
Hi Kami,
KAMI wrote:
Dear Jürgen!
Jürgen Schmidt írta:
Hi Kami,
why did you create an own installation set
I have created my own installation set because:
- it is funny ;o)
great to here
- it makes OpenOffice.org more attractive compared to other
(Commercial) suites. Other suites has more complete clipart,
temlate, font colletion in the installer... (In case of
OpenOffice.org Premium ~2400 clipart, ~80 impress background, ~60
temlpates, ~90 fonts, 40 fontwork gallery element (already
integrated), Bitstream vera replaced by Deja Vu (integration on the
way)... I think OpenOffice.org Premium extras looks more shiny than
original...
- all-in-one solution makes the life easier (You do not have to
download templates, fonts, clipart, fontwork gallery,
documentation, OOo related materials, UNO components (LaTeX
filter)) separetly, the install it.You get all thing via one
click... Ideal way for beginners...
- I enjoyed the work with your heplful collegues Ingo and Kai.
perfect, it seems that you like the work with the community and you
obviously has done a good job with all the new stuff for your
"premium" OO.org.
I feel same :o) But I know We need to do more. The current objective
of this project to be the part of main OpenOffice.org, so everybody
can use our extras. I did and will do everything to make it happen as
soon as possible. Localization support, apply of OpenOffice.org
desing rules on OOo Premium... I know we need contributors, whom help
out us with particular language translation, templates, documentums....
and why didn't you provide your template collection to the OO.org
project directly.
As far as I know the English and German templates are available via
local language teams' homepage. Hungarian templates are available
at hu.openoffice.org.
OpenOffice Premium source (patcset for vanilla OOo) is available here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/
ok, i don't know the details exactly how the template stuff is
organized. But i think that there should be one place for all
languages.
I do agree...
One place with a set of templates, impress backgrounds ... where the
community has agreed that they should become the default in an
official OpenOffice.org distro.
I still agree...
No differentiation between OpenOffice.org and a OpenOffice.org
Premium or others.
I do not want to differ OpenOffic.org and OpenOffice.org Premium. I
wopuld very happy if we decide to integrate OpenOffice.org Premium
into OpenOffice.org project...
I did steps to this direction...
After we created Premium, we compiled binaries for linux and
windows... Then shown it to the community. The Hungarian users really
liked this idea (ide of integrated Premium versions), so we created
international version - firstly en-US - and I hope we will have De
version by the 2.0.3's time.
Make it easy for our end users -->> one OpenOffice.org -->> no
further decision which distro of OpenOffice would be the best for me.
Ok there are always reasons for having commercial products based on
OpenOffice.org. I mean especially support and service issues for
companies which are often bind to a commercial product and which
from my point of view is ok. But i personally as private user of
OpenOffice.org wouldn't really choose between different
OpenOffice.org versions.
So we didn't hide our work. What do you think where should we
promote our templates?
That would have the benefit that the translation mechanisms on
OO.org can be used
Translatig is not affecting templates just the additional
installation parts, galleries, etc. Templates are created one by
one for every language...
mmh, i think often the idea and structure of a template is important
I agree - I think the origanl template stucture is good for start...
and if you have some kind of master template in English
I mainly work on Hungarian templates, of course one day I might start
to create also English templates. But for this I have top learn
English at first.
for example other user can translate the template to other languages
as well but reusing the original idea, structure, macros, ...
Yes! More complex documents must be more reusable. OOo community
might start a document localization project to make more
templates/macro based documents, utilities available for more and
more languages.
and all OO.org versions would benefit of a better or bigger
template collection and better or more impress schemes.
Of course everybody benefit from out collection because everybody
can use the extras (as you saw they are available for public), but
Premium - from my viewpoint - is one (or two) step forward because
it integrates these extras into OpenOffice.org perfectly...
fine, and you can make the seconds step (installing OO.org Premium)
obsolete by integrating it in the offical OpenOffice.org build
I have a good news for you! I already did taht step :o) I made it
OpenOffice.org compatible as your engineers requested... I divided
into four parts to make integration easier as Pavel requested. I
filled issues about integration here:
62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Gallery (1/4)
62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Fonts (2/4)
62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Templates (3/4)
62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Samples (4/4)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
I think I can not do more for integration, can you?
Here is a snippet about OpenOffice.org Premium:
OpenOffice.org Premium = OpenOffice.org + Extras
OpenOffice.org Premium is a free and open source enhancement of
official OpenOffice.org. The Hungarian Native Language Team has
modified the source of OpenOffice.org and bundled lot of extras
with it. Here are just a few of the extras you get with
OpenOffice.org Premium:
* Clip Art (currently more than 2,400 objects)
* Templates (number varies by language)
* Samples (number varies by language)
* Documentation (if available)
* Fonts (more than 90 fonts)
OpenOffice.org Premium is based on the latest and greatest version
of OpenOffice.org -- 2.0.2.
You can download OpenOffice.org Premium 2.0.2 from here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOB680_m5_Premium
Current language versions:
Hungarian (HU), English (EN-US)
the official build supports much more
Yes, but do not forget there are few peoples behind the project...
Currently doesn't mean maximal. Of course we support as many
languages as original OpenOffice.org do, but we need someone who
translate it into his own languages and also collect and order the
templates...
That the reason why it can be helpful to put it on OpenOffice
directly. Probably more people will help.
I would very happy if I could see Premium extras in the main tree. I try
to do my best, I will develop more good things into Premium, but I think
I need your and your collegues help to make it happen... Again, I will
be glad to see my extensions in the general OpenOffice.org...
Current platforms:
Linux and Windows
the official build supports much more
Sorry mister! We have only Windows and Linux machnies. This is the
sad Hungarian reality :o( I am not a corporation, my resources are
limited. I can't spend more money for Mac (PPC and Intel), Sparc and
others...
... the reason as before, use the comunity
I would like...
The modified source code can be downloaded here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod
(Current version is: OOo202Premium-step7.zip
<ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/OOo202Premium-step7.zip>
)
The modified source code is available for everyone. It has been
changed to
utilize all of OpenOffice.org features, including localization. If
you'd
like to help us improve OpenOffice.org Premium, here are a few of
the ways
you can get involved:
* Translators - translate the resource files to your language and
send it them back to me
* Content creators/revisors - Send me templates and openoffice.org
documentation (in OpenDocument Format) for your language. Collect
as many as you can, but please keep out the poor, low quality
content... Someone might recheck the English content of upcoming
OpenOffice.org Premium 2.0.2 - It is only a sample.
* Gallery submitters/coordinators/organisers - Send me a free
galleries or images (mainly in vector based format) good quality
SVG->WMF convertions may be interesting...
* Builders - to build OpenOffice.org Premium with other language -
I can do it, but I have only one machine and it is also for work
* Programmers - to develop a new ideas, make it better
* Voters - If you find it useful you can vote for integration:
62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Gallery (1/4)
62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Fonts (2/4)
62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Templates (3/4)
62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Samples (4/4)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
Thanks for sharing all this info here ...
Juergen
Not at all :o)
Can you help me in the integration?
not directly. Templates etc. are not my area but i will see what i can
do.
Than you! That should be enough :o)
Juergen
Bye,
KAMI
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