Thorsten Behrens wrote:
Éric Bischoff wrote:
Nokia recently relicensed the Qt library under a triple license : GPL, LGPL, and commercial.

Qt is cute, modern, C++, easy to program with, and multiplatform. Wouldn't it be the ideal replacement for VCL, now that LGPL is an option?

Hi Eric,

why are you following up to my (unrelated) lib unloading mail?!

Anyway, besides concerns others have voiced regarding text layout &
accessibility, changing the underlying toolkit of OOo in the way it
is proposed here is the most far-reaching change to the code base I
can conceive of, short of changing the implementation language from
c++ to managed c++ or somesuch.

So that's nothing we should do on a whim - quite the contrary, we
should never ever again bind ourselves against the implementation of one specific toolkit, but rather code against an abstract interface.
i fully agree but not with the current toolkit that is more or less a pour rip-off of VCL in may areas. Not easy to use and of course a lot of things are missing.

If we would move forward in this direction i would strongly recommend an incompatible change and redesign of the toolkit or a complete new one. First and foremost should we make use of the UNO "ease of use" features, means multiple inheritance, service constructor etc. to make it more comfortable and easier to use.

It will be probably always a little bit more overhead or not so comfortable than using a toolkit XY directly. But as Thorsten mentioned we will have a clear abstraction and no dependencies on one specific toolkit. That was and still is the main design idea of the toolkit. However it was addressed and implemented in the past.


Along that lines, see the work that's happening around dialog
auto-layouting and the awt toolkit
(http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/friday_1470.pdf)
we need the layouter, we need it, we need it ... When will it be really usable?

Juergen



Of course, having qt then provide _one_ implementation of that
toolkit interface is quite the plan (as having a gtk, Win32 & Cocoa one). And the license change definitely helps there.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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