The discussion on using Cloudmade routing on the OSM website points to a deeper question: What is the OpenStreetMap project and how do we want to present it on openstreetmap.org?
When giving talks or generally talking to people about OpenStreetMap one of the questions I hear the most is: "Is OpenStreetMap planning to do X?" X beeing a "routing service" or "a website where people can upload their hiking trails, photos, whatever" or many other things people think can be done with the maps. And I try to explain people that OSM is providing the data and the maps and that its not the goal of OSM to provide every conceivable map or mapping web site or service. Thats the mindset people have gotten into: We wait for Google or Yahoo or Microsoft to come up with the service and thats it. I think we should encourage people to build their own, to build a whole eco-system of different websites and services, not try to get too many things inside the core OSM project. We should make clear what the OSM part in this eco-system is: providing the data. I think we should come up with an idea what the "core" of the OSM project ist and those things should be on the openstreetmap.org website and maintained by the community in an open fashion. Everything else can be done on different web sites and be linked to. Thats the power of the web. Once we start bringing in other services, where do we stop? There are already hundreds of web sites with OSM based maps, routing services etc. All of them could argue that they want to be on openstreetmap.org. Surely the ski lift map is useful when entering data for ski areas. So I think we should distinguish between the core, the open community project, on the one side and other projects (commercial or non-commercial) which build upon OSM. Jochen -- Jochen Topf [email protected] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

