On 14 May 2009, at 17:43, Tels wrote: > Moin, > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:32 Tels wrote: >> Moin, >> >> On Thursday 14 May 2009 09:31:56 Tom Hughes wrote: >>> Jeffrey Warren wrote: >>>> Hi, I suddenly started getting "403 - Forbidden" from my any >>>> machine. I also get a 403 when i simply go to >>>> "www.openstreetmap.org >>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org>" in a browser (just discovered >>>> this...). Have I been blacklisted or is this an outage? >>> >>> I suspect you're the person I blocked last night because you were >>> apparently trying to scrape map data from the API with a large >>> number of presumably automated map calls. >>> >>> If you are the person I blocked then in the last four days you've >>> made a total of 8186 map calls, an average of about 1.5 a minute. >>> >>> If you want bulk data, please use the planet dump not the API to >>> get it. >> >> I presume my own application (http://bloodgate.com/wiki/map) will >> then be blocked, too. >> >> Using the "plant dump + diffs" sounds easy, but is in fact impossible >> for me. My online server does not have the capacity to store the >> entire world, and I do not have the computing power and time to >> convert it up-front, either. (Not to mention do upload the converted >> data to my server from my home DSL line :( >> >> (There is also the question what happens if importing an hourly diff >> takes regulary longer than 60 minutes. So far the only data I have on >> that is someone mentioning that it "takes between 40 and 70 minutes >> with a fast harddisk"...) >> >> Also, to download the whole dump, update it with minute diffs and >> pregenerate a huge database is vastly more complicated and uses a lot >> more processing power than just to fetch (and cache for X days) the >> few areas someone is actually looking at. > > I know it's bad style to reply to yourself, but :) > > * took out api.openstreetmap.org from osmapi at bloodgate.com for now > * the API server is waay to slow, in any case, so I am looking at the > planet dump method, but it will take quite a while to developt the > converter and I am not sure it will actually work > > Still, it would be good to know what the plans for the future are and > how one could help to improve the situation. How expensive would it be > to run an XAPI server like xapi.informationfreeway.org? >
You may well want to use an extract (i.e. a country or region) and then use the diffs. Shaun _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

