I need a legal advice, not a personal opinion about app design. That we need to 
show our own logo –we didn’t show it before but showed the OSM attribution 
text- has a solid legal background, which I won’t go into detail in a public 
mailing list. That we want to show only one logo on smartphones really has its 
reason also. We can show both on the iPad and Android tablets. And in our own 
apps, where we can control content and UI, we credit OSM at multiple places 
(legal or about page, as well as on the map view itself).

Cheers
Ben


Von: Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>
Datum: Sonntag, 23. April 2017 um 13:41
An: "dev@openstreetmap.org" <dev@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Legal question about attribution text on smartphone


IMHO mobile devs tend to substantially exaggerate the screen real estate 
scarcity. Two to three sources as text lines is clearly doable, and you don't 
really need to have separate links on the main screen itself, just show a 
common attribution screen.

And: -you- control how much you want to show your logo, it is -not- a third 
party legal requirement, no reason you can't simply live with some text if you 
believe there is not enough space.

Simon

Am 23.04.2017 um 00:26 schrieb Stadin, Benjamin:
It’s not our app, but this is an (indoor) map SDK which can be integrated into 
other native iOS and Android apps. A list (UIActionSheet on iOS) appears when 
our logo is tapped, showing multiple links (including a link to 
www.openstreetmap.org/copyright<http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright>). 
Having our logo visible is a legal requirement also, and it wouldn’t be 
convenient to place the list with multiple legal links not associated to OSM 
behind the OSM attribution logo or text.

If we need to show two logos it would waste space for navigation controls and 
building / floor selection UI elements.

Since the map view will be used in other apps, we cannot control what is shown 
on the splash screen. We can place it there for our own apps, and ask customers 
of our SDK to place it there. But from experience this is often forgotten, and 
I’d rather prefer a permanent solution and give credit to OSM one way or 
another on the map view.

Cheers
Ben


Von: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com><mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>
Datum: Freitag, 21. April 2017 um 12:49
An: Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org><mailto:r...@technomancy.org>
Cc: "dev@openstreetmap.org"<mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org> 
<dev@openstreetmap.org><mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org>, 
"legal-t...@openstreetmap.org"<mailto:legal-t...@openstreetmap.org> 
<legal-t...@openstreetmap.org><mailto:legal-t...@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Legal question about attribution text on smartphone



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On 21. Apr 2017, at 12:10, Rory McCann 
<r...@technomancy.org<mailto:r...@technomancy.org>> wrote:
So I dunno? Maybe? There could be ways around it if you don't want to include 
it on every map page. Does your app have a loading/spash screen? Including an 
attribution there, which is shown every time the app is started might meet the 
requirements.


have you seen this page?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ

generally, if there is enough space for your logo, there should also be for osm 
(on pages showing maps). If there's space for just one attribution, why not use 
it to attribute osm? The user will more likely be aware who you are (as he's 
using your app) than he will be that your map data comes from osm, so 
prioritizing OSM attribution seems to make sense


cheers,
Martin




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