Yes, it would be helpful to put this description at the beginning.

Han

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Amitabha Biswas <abis...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi Han,
>
> Yes the use case for this proposal is the following (in OpenStack terms):
>
> "A cloud deployment where all the compute nodes are in the same L2 domain
> as the 'Neutron' external network even though there may be many subnets".
> There are public clouds that do meet this assumption. In such cases, there
> should not be a need for a L3 gateway (resulting in one less hop).
>
> The modified proposal can state this use case at the beginning of the
> proposal. Does this address your concern?
>
> Thanks
> Amitabha
>
>
>
> From:        Han Zhou <zhou...@gmail.com>
> To:        Amitabha Biswas/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
> Cc:        ovs-dev <dev@openvswitch.org>
> Date:        02/03/2016 11:01 AM
> Subject:        Re: [ovs-dev] OVN: Floating IP Support - Proposal
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Amitabha Biswas <*abis...@us.ibm.com*
> <abis...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
>
> > Packet Traversal
> > ================
> >
> > Inbound Packet (from external) with Floating IP Processing
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > It is assumed that the ARP request for the Floating IP will be broadcast
> > to
> > all the hosts/hypervisors.
> >
>
>
> Hi Amitabha and Chandra,
>
> Thanks for the proposal! Before going to the details, we need to make the
> use case clear.
>
> The assumption here doesn't seem to be realistic to me for most operators.
> OVN overlay would most likely to be deployed on top of a IP backplane which
> involves multiple L2 domains, which means it is not possible for an ARP to
> be broadcast to *all* hypervisors. For relevant HVs to receive the ARP we
> may schedule VMs under a given lrouter always to the HVs that are under
> same L2 domain, but if we schedule VMs that way, we may lose the benefit of
> overlay which is supposed to decouple the IP and location. Nevertheless,
> with this limitation, this approach might still be useful if the customer
> can sacrifice the IP mobility but want to utilize the metadata provided by
> tunneling for east-west traffic.
>
> So could you define the scope and address this concern first? Otherwise we
> may wait for the L3 gateway design and propose floating ip support there.
> Having a dedicated L2 domain for L3 gateways and making the L3 gateways
> horizontally scalable might be a more practical solution, though the
> dataplane performance will have to be compromised because of the extra hops.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Han
>
>
>


-- 
Best regards,
Han
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