Pushed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-1370 too (to select the
provider). The small issue it has is that meecrowave will still run its
extension in the classpath - but this is very "normal". A quick workaround
is to veto meecrowavebus bean which will kind of swallow the side effects.
Here is a quick CDI SE run using owb-se as impl and having meecrowave
'leaked' in the classpath:

try (SeContainer container = SeContainerInitializer.newInstance()
        .addProperty(SeContainerInitializer.class.getName() +
".provider", "owb")
        .addExtensions(new Extension() {
            void veto(@Observes final ProcessAnnotatedType<MeecrowaveBus> bus) {
                bus.veto();
            }
        })
        .initialize()) {

We can make meecrowave detect it is not used and veto itself or the default
extension loader (loader service) skip meecrowave exentension in such a
case but this last option requires OWB to know about Meecrowave and first
one requires some new callbacks which are a bit overkill IMHO so I'm
tempted to think it is not that bad, in particular since in the context of
a project this extension can be made configurable with a system proprety or
so so overall both initializer impl cases are enabled more properly IMHO.

Wdyt?


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Le sam. 20 févr. 2021 à 18:03, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> MEECROWAVE-278 and OWB-1369 should fix it.
> Will also likely create a OWB-1370 to enable to pass a provider property
> to select explicitly which one to use.
>
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> Le sam. 20 févr. 2021 à 12:20, Arne Limburg <arne.limb...@openknowledge.de>
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Romain,
>>
>>
>> for now I am fine with the result of this 😊
>>
>> If you can easily fix it, it would be cool.
>>
>>
>> Imho the setup I use is quite common (having meecrowave in classpath and
>> se for testing), even more as I observed similar behavior with owb-junit
>> (haven't investigated further). Of course one could use just plain
>> meecrowave for testing, but that is not obvious (thanks to your hint with
>> the http property). So other users may run into the same issues, I have.
>>
>>
>> Let me know, if I can help further,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Arne
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>> Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Februar 2021 09:43
>> An: openwebbeans-dev
>> Betreff: Re: Incompatibility between owb-se and meecrowave?
>>
>> Hi Arne,
>>
>> the meecrowave mode can need to get in its openwebbeans.properties this
>> line:
>>
>> org.apache.webbeans.spi.ContextsService =
>> org.apache.webbeans.web.context.WebContextsService
>>
>> cause owb-web and owb-se have the same ordinal so if the classpath is not
>> well ordered se one wins and meecrowave does not shutdown properly, this
>> needs to be fixed.
>>
>> The same kind of conflict happens with the scanner service which leads to
>> alternative bug. A quick fix is:
>>
>> try (SeContainer container = SeContainerInitializer.newInstance()
>>         .addProperty(ScannerService.class.getName(), new
>> OWBTomcatWebScannerService())
>>         .initialize()) {
>>
>> MeecrowaveSeContainerInitializer overrides protected ScannerService
>> getScannerService() method to return its own scanner but it see SE one is
>> still used in a few cases so the bootstrap config (beans.xml list) must be
>> migrated to the runtime scanner in newContainer method.
>>
>> Very concretely it is kind of already planned but
>> OWBTomcatWebScannerService misses
>> some delegation in its impl so I suspect it is just about completing it.
>> Let me know if you want i do both fixes.
>>
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>> Le sam. 20 févr. 2021 à 09:23, Arne Limburg <
>> arne.limb...@openknowledge.de>
>> a écrit :
>>
>> > Hi Romain,
>> >
>> >
>> > if that is the expected behavior, then I indeed have found a bug ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > I tried your suggestions here:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/ArneLimburg/meecrowave-se-sample
>> >
>> > and in the SE case the beans.xml is not picked (see SeTest).
>> >
>> > When I remove the dependency to owb-se at least new Meecrowave().bake()
>> > works as expected.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'll dig into it next week. If you find some time earlier, feel free 😊
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Arne
>> >
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>> > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Februar 2021 18:55
>> > An: openwebbeans-dev
>> > Betreff: Re: Incompatibility between owb-se and meecrowave?
>> >
>> > Exactly, you are supposed to have these dependencies:
>> >
>> > <dependencies>
>> >   <dependency>
>> >     <groupId>org.apache.meecrowave</groupId>
>> >     <artifactId>meecrowave-specs-api</artifactId>
>> >     <version>1.2.10</version>
>> >   </dependency>
>> >   <dependency>
>> >     <groupId>org.apache.meecrowave</groupId>
>> >     <artifactId>meecrowave-core</artifactId>
>> >     <version>1.2.10</version>
>> >   </dependency>
>> >   <dependency>
>> >     <groupId>org.apache.openwebbeans</groupId>
>> >     <artifactId>openwebbeans-se</artifactId>
>> >     <version>2.0.21</version>
>> >   </dependency>
>> > </dependencies>
>> >
>> >
>> > And with this setup this main:
>> >
>> > package com.github.rmannibucau;
>> >
>> > import javax.enterprise.context.ApplicationScoped;
>> > import javax.enterprise.context.Initialized;
>> > import javax.enterprise.event.Observes;
>> > import javax.enterprise.inject.se.SeContainerInitializer;
>> >
>> > @ApplicationScoped
>> > public class Hi {
>> >     public void onStart(@Observes
>> > @Initialized(ApplicationScoped.class) final Object init) {
>> >         System.out.println(">> hi");
>> >     }
>> >
>> >     public static void main(final String... args) {
>> >         SeContainerInitializer.newInstance()
>> >                 .initialize()
>> >                 .close();
>> >     }
>> > }
>> >
>> >
>> > Should output something like:
>> >
>> > [18:52:45.639][INFO ][           main][oyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol]
>> > Initializing ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
>> > [18:52:45.646][INFO ][           main][.catalina.core.StandardService]
>> > Starting service [Tomcat]
>> > [18:52:45.646][INFO ][           main][e.catalina.core.StandardEngine]
>> > Starting Servlet engine: [Apache Tomcat/9.0.39]
>> > [18:52:45.653][INFO ][           main][oyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol]
>> > Starting ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
>> > [18:52:45.662][INFO ][           main][g.apache.meecrowave.Meecrowave]
>> > --------------- http://localhost:8080
>> > [18:52:45.720][INFO ][           main][.catalina.core.StandardContext]
>> > Unable to set the web application class loader property
>> > [clearReferencesObjectStreamClassCaches] to [true] as the property does
>> not
>> > exist.
>> > [18:52:45.720][INFO ][           main][.catalina.core.StandardContext]
>> > Unable to set the web application class loader property
>> > [clearReferencesObjectStreamClassCaches] to [true] as the property does
>> not
>> > exist.
>> > [18:52:45.720][INFO ][           main][.catalina.core.StandardContext]
>> > Unable to set the web application class loader property
>> > [clearReferencesThreadLocals] to [true] as the property does not exist.
>> > [18:52:45.727][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/meecrowave/meecrowave-core/1.2.10/meecrowave-core-1.2.10.jar!/META-INF/beans.xml
>> > [18:52:45.731][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-integration-cdi/3.4.1/cxf-integration-cdi-3.4.1.jar!/META-INF/beans.xml
>> > [18:52:45.733][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/johnzon/johnzon-jsonb/1.2.8/johnzon-jsonb-1.2.8.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.733][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/meecrowave/meecrowave-specs-api/1.2.10/meecrowave-specs-api-1.2.10.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.733][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-rt-security/3.4.1/cxf-rt-security-3.4.1.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.733][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-rt-rs-client/3.4.1/cxf-rt-rs-client-3.4.1.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-rt-frontend-jaxrs/3.4.1/cxf-rt-frontend-jaxrs-3.4.1.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL: file:/tmp/demo-mw-cdi-se/target/classes/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-rt-transports-http/3.4.1/cxf-rt-transports-http-3.4.1.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/johnzon/johnzon-mapper/1.2.8/johnzon-mapper-1.2.8.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/johnzon/johnzon-core/1.2.8/johnzon-core-1.2.8.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.734][INFO ][           main][nner.AbstractMetaDataDiscovery]
>> > added beans archive URL:
>> >
>> >
>> jar:file:/home/rmannibucau/.m2/repository/org/apache/cxf/cxf-core/3.4.1/cxf-core-3.4.1.jar!/
>> > [18:52:45.810][INFO ][           main][ifecycle.WebContainerLifecycle]
>> > OpenWebBeans Container is starting...
>> > [18:52:45.943][INFO ][           main][.webbeans.config.BeansDeployer]
>> All
>> > injection points were validated successfully.
>> > >> hi
>> > [18:52:45.965][INFO ][           main][ifecycle.WebContainerLifecycle]
>> > OpenWebBeans Container has started, it took [155] ms.
>> > [18:52:46.030][INFO ][           main][ifecycle.WebContainerLifecycle]
>> > OpenWebBeans Container was stopped for context path, []
>> > [18:52:46.034][INFO ][           main][oyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol]
>> > Pausing ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
>> > [18:52:46.041][INFO ][           main][.catalina.core.StandardService]
>> > Stopping service [Tomcat]
>> > [18:52:46.043][INFO ][           main][oyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol]
>> > Stopping ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
>> > [18:52:46.089][INFO ][           main][oyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol]
>> > Destroying ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
>> >
>> > (to drop the warning use: META-INF/openwebbeans/openwebbeans.properties:
>> >
>> > configuration.ordinal = 500
>> > org.apache.webbeans.spi.DefiningClassService =
>> > org.apache.webbeans.service.ClassLoaderProxyService
>> > org.apache.webbeans.spi.ApplicationBoundaryService =
>> > org.apache.webbeans.corespi.se.SimpleApplicationBoundaryService
>> > org.apache.webbeans.spi.deployer.skipVetoedOnPackages = true
>> > org.apache.webbeans.scanBeansXmlOnly = true
>> >
>> > )
>> >
>> > TIP, once working for you try .addProperty("skipHttp", true) on the
>> > initializer ;)
>> >
>> > Le ven. 19 févr. 2021 à 18:11, Arne Limburg <
>> arne.limb...@openknowledge.de
>> > >
>> > a écrit :
>> >
>> > > Hi Romain,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK, if I understand correctly then, it is supposed to work out of the
>> box
>> > > with owb-se and meecrowave in the classpath. Since it doesn't (at
>> least
>> > not
>> > > as expected), I'll investigate further and either find my
>> configuration
>> > > problem or a bug ;-)
>> > >
>> > > SeContainerInitializer.newInstance().initialize() is not supposed to
>> work
>> > > when owb-se is not on the classpath, right?
>> > >
>> > > So I do not further investigate that scenario?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Arne
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > Von: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Februar 2021 14:06
>> > > An: openwebbeans-dev
>> > > Betreff: Re: Incompatibility between owb-se and meecrowave?
>> > >
>> > > Le ven. 19 févr. 2021 à 12:48, Arne Limburg <
>> > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de
>> > > >
>> > > a écrit :
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Romain
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll investigate the beans.xml problem further, but it seemed to me
>> > that
>> > > > two containers were started.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Oki, let me know if i can help.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Regarding the META-INF/services file, I am talking about
>> > > >
>> > > > javax.enterprise.inject.se.SeContainerInitializer
>> > > >
>> > > > and not
>> > > >
>> > > > org.apache.openwebbeans.se.SeContainerSelector
>> > > >
>> > > > The first one is not available in meecrowave. So in meecrowave I
>> cannot
>> > > do
>> > > > SeContainerInitializer.newInstance()
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > This is not strictly true (don't get it "rude", I'll explain with next
>> > > answer ;))
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Is that by intention?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Yes, fact is SeContainerInitializer cdi api is incomplete since you
>> cant
>> > > select the impl you want either from a provider(xx) method or a system
>> > > property so you can't have 2 impl at the same time in the same
>> classpath
>> > -
>> > > note it is not aligned on EE spec SPI,
>> > > to solve it we introduced (ok I did ;)) the facade SPI behind the
>> > standard
>> > > API. Current version is very raw but plan is to enhance it to enable
>> too
>> > > the sorting and selection we can need (just did the minimum for
>> > meecrowave
>> > > case at the moment).
>> > > It also enables to reuse a lot of the OWBInitializer impl and in
>> > particular
>> > > explicit scanning (classes(), packages() etc).
>> > >
>> > > Hope it makes sense.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > Arne
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
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>> > > > ________________________________
>> > > > Von: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2021 22:08
>> > > > An: openwebbeans-dev
>> > > > Betreff: Re: Incompatibility between owb-se and meecrowave?
>> > > >
>> > > > Le jeu. 18 févr. 2021 à 21:34, Arne Limburg <
>> > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de
>> > > > >
>> > > > a écrit :
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Romain,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thank you, it helps a bit to understand.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would be ok, if meecrowave would handle everything as expected,
>> but
>> > > > > somehow my src/test/resources/META-INF/beans.xml is completely
>> > ignored
>> > > in
>> > > > > the case that both are in the classpath. Maybe we should at least
>> fix
>> > > > that.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Sure but can be a wrong setup no?
>> > > > It just does a meecrowave.bake.
>> > > >
>> > > > Side note: http cna be disabled adding the right properties.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > And - I cannot use SeContainerInitializer with meecrowave (without
>> > > > > owb-se), because the META-INF/services-file is missing in
>> > > > meecrowave-core.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is that intended?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
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>> > > > > Von: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2021 17:11
>> > > > > An: openwebbeans-dev
>> > > > > Betreff: Re: Incompatibility between owb-se and meecrowave?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi Arne,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Both (meecrowave-core and owb-se) implement SeContainer API - this
>> > part
>> > > > is
>> > > > > intended.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Nominal case is to have only one of both in the classpath.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The main trick happens
>> > > > > in org.apache.openwebbeans.se
>> > .SeInitializerFacade#SeInitializerFacade
>> > > > (and
>> > > > > when you have both meecrowave wins since it supports SE + other
>> > > > features).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If you handle the bootstrap manually you can do
>> > > > > new org.apache.openwebbeans.se.OWBInitializer() to workaround it
>> -
>> > > sadly
>> > > > > SeContainerInitializer does not have a provider(fqn) method not
>> > > supports
>> > > > a
>> > > > > system property to override it.
>> > > > > If in a maven project and for tests I suspect you can just
>> implement
>> > > your
>> > > > > own org.apache.openwebbeans.se.SeInitializerFacade and since
>> maven
>> > > will
>> > > > > put
>> > > > > src/test/resources before deps in the classpath it will use that
>> so
>> > you
>> > > > can
>> > > > > control the selection logic.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If not sufficient we can still
>> > > > > extend org.apache.openwebbeans.se
>> > > > .SeInitializerFacade#SeInitializerFacade
>> > > > > logic to read a system property to select the container to use
>> and if
>> > > not
>> > > > > fallback on current impl, we can even enrich our junit5
>> integration
>> > > > (@Cdi)
>> > > > > to set this system property around
>> > > > > org/apache/openwebbeans/junit5/internal/CdiExtension.java:70 to
>> > ensure
>> > > we
>> > > > > can set it in the annotation if relevant.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hope it helps a bit.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
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>> > > > > Le jeu. 18 févr. 2021 à 16:46, Arne Limburg <
>> > > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > a écrit :
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I am observing some issues with
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > SeContainerInitializer.newInstance().initialize();
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > When I use it in my tests meecrowave (which is on the classpath)
>> > > kicks
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > and does some weird stuff with the classpath.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Basically I try to enable an alternative stereotype for my tests
>> > and
>> > > it
>> > > > > > does not work in that scenario neither via beans.xml (in
>> > > > > > src/test/resources/META-INF) nor via
>> > > > > > SeContainerInitializer#selectAlternativeStereotypes.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > With either owb-se or meecrowave in the classpath it works as
>> > > expected
>> > > > > > (with new Meecrowave().bake()).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Did a short digging into the code and it seams that two contexts
>> > are
>> > > > > > started in that case.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Does anyone have an idea what's going on or where I should look
>> at
>> > to
>> > > > > find
>> > > > > > the problem?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Next question: How is it supposed to work?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In my scenario I want to start a CDI container without a
>> > > webcontainer,
>> > > > > but
>> > > > > > even doing it with owb-internal classes does not work, because
>> it
>> > > > detects
>> > > > > > some meecrowave classes that have servlet injection points that
>> > > cannot
>> > > > be
>> > > > > > satisfied in that scenario.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Imho when using
>> SeContainerInitializer.newInstance().initialize()
>> > > > > > meecrowave should not be started, but I have no idea how to
>> achieve
>> > > > that.
>> > > > > > Should we explicitly exclude every meecrowave class in SE
>> > scenarios?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I would work on that, but I need an idea in which direction to
>> go.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Arne
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