Let’s go for a date early in September. That will give us time to get 0.9.0 
out, and will also enable some Hive developers to participate.

I have an offsite on September 9th, but plenty of other days would work — say 
2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, 11th. Do any of those work for you?

Julian

On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oops... sorry about the wrong list.  What do you think about doing a
> hackathon August 12th?  If that won't work with your release goals, how
> about on September 9th?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> (Replying to dev@apache, bcc [email protected]. I’m fairly sure
>> Jacques intended to post to dev@apache.)
>> 
>> Great ideas. They all help clarify what we are building and how we are
>> building it. I am +1 on each.
>> 
>> Regarding 4. Given that the first release will be 0.9.0-incubating, not
>> 1.0, and I'd like to get an RC to a vote within 2 weeks, do you think that
>> the hackathon will deliver what we need? If not, I'd be excited to do a
>> hackathon shortly after 0.9.0, working towards 1.0 goals.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2014 9:11 PM, "Jacques Nadeau" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I started with a tl;dr but I decided to simplify.  I have a few
>> suggestions that I think would be good (and am willing to back them up with
>> developer effort).
>> 
>> 1. Let's come up with an agreed set of processes around feature design
>> docs, commits and changes to interfaces.  Trying to maintain a large
>> codebase against another codebase that is constantly in flux makes things
>> very difficult.
>> 
>> 2. Let's separate the optimizer from execution entirely and remove all
>> code generation from the optimizer module. With modularization, teams that
>> use only subcomponents (like the Drill team) will be able to better provide
>> test cases as they can build test cases against the interfaces they are
>> using as opposed to much higher (unknown) levels.
>> 
>> 3. Let's commit to test cases for all feature patches and bug fixes.  If
>> something is a shared feature, let's maintain a separate feature branch
>> until the feature is complete and test cases are provided and then pick the
>> right version to merge.
>> 
>> 4. Let's do a hackathon focused on getting our first Apache release out.
>> I'll get it set up if people are in support of it.
>> 
>> As I said, I'm willing to put mine and my team's effort against these
>> goals if others are on board.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Jacques
>> 
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