Adding library asserts, python asserts and talkback to release is
equivalent to adding talkback to debug.
Always running the debug version doesn't makes sense for performance
reasons.
Adding talkback to release without asserts will miss the majorioty of
problems, since asserts are more common than crashes in python programs.
Personally, I think it makes sense to use talkback for both release and
debug. However, in debug you're only going to get a small subset of
possible errors, e.g. crashes or the proposed missing exception.
John
Philippe Bossut wrote:
If that's the only disavantage, I'm all for blessing talkback (and
adding library asserts and feedback on python) as a new "feature" in
whatever we call release. I don't want to sound funny but the number
of existing users we will inconvenience or confuse is... ahem...
"small"...
As a data point, all MS Office apps do report bugs now "a la talkback"
as well as Windows XP and Firefox (as mentioned by Alec). I witness
the difference it made in the MS Office team to estimate the
criticallity of bugs: huge!
So, IMHO, it's a fair addition to whatever we call release. It will
definitely generate very useful data, even from a high level point of
view (e.g. how often a given crash is reported...).
Cheers,
- Philippe
John Anderson wrote:
The only disavantage of callihng this release is we already have a
release version and it doesn't have feedback on python or library
asserts, which is what we need feedback on.
John
Alec Flett wrote:
How about calling it "the release"?
This functionality can go out in release-level products - Windows XP
and Firefox are two that I can think of that have this functionality
built in to the end-user release. I'm sure there are more.
Alec
John Anderson wrote:
Maybe we should change the name so your mother would install it if
she's interested in sending back automated results.
Andi Vajda wrote:
I agree it makes sense for a end user debug version to send info
back to us
It seems to me that something labelled "end user debug version" is
not something my mother would ever install, yet it would be useful
if she reported
bugs via something like talkback.
Andi..
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