Hi Andrew,

How does this interact with the ongoing versioning discussion? Given that
new encodings are not forward compatible, I would assume ALP is included in
Parquet V<next> (V3?), but it's not clear to me how that works if it's
merged to the parquet-format master branch now. Will we exclude this change
when cutting parquet-format v2.14.0?

-- Div

On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 8:51 AM Andrew Lamb <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As an update, thanks to the epic work from many contributors, especially
> Prateek, I just merged the parquet-format change for ALP[1]. We plan to
> make additional editorial The remaining items I know of are merging the
> examples from parquet-testing[2], and then of course the various
> implementations
>
> Thanks again everyone. This is a great step forward
> Andrew
>
> [1]: https://github.com/apache/parquet-format/pull/557
> [2]: https://github.com/apache/parquet-testing/pull/100
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 4:39 PM Julien Le Dem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It was also in my spam folder... :(
> > I've seen a bunch of apache list emails go to my spam recently.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 10:58 AM Russell Spitzer <
> > [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, my hope was that my vote would kick it out of spam but we
> definitely
> > > had two other votes that also went to spam for me.
> > >
> > > For anyone looking the thread is here
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/hgmd58wrv9yoopcrf61m1bg211l65tbt
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 10:57 AM Micah Kornfield <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've seen other's votes not go to spam, so hopefully people will see
> it
> > > in
> > > > there inboxes (or see this thread and look in there spam).
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 10:52 AM PRATEEK GAUR <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent out the voting email yesterday and so far I've heard from 3
> > > people
> > > > > that it ended up in their "spam folder". Dev VPN to be blamed for
> > it?.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the protocol here?
> > > > > I let people hunt for the email in their spam folder or send out
> > > another
> > > > > one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best
> > > > > Prateek
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 10:47 PM PRATEEK GAUR <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vinoo has added the tests which were requested in the last round
> of
> > > > > review.
> > > > > > In his own words.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > The extreme value tests Micah wanted are done and pushed. I added
> > > > > coverage
> > > > > > for values that need the full FOR bit width after the frame of
> > > > reference
> > > > > is
> > > > > > applied: 64-bit (the case where the signed max minus min
> > subtraction
> > > > > > overflows), 63-bit (the non-overflow case), and 32-bit for
> floats.
> > > All
> > > > > > lossless with zero exceptions. I also verified them through Arrow
> > C++
> > > > ALP
> > > > > > reader (the local build), so the Java-written extreme columns
> > decode
> > > > > > correctly in C++, bit-exact against the expected values."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > State of the PR (#3397):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    - Merges cleanly with master (I pulled master in and resolved
> > the
> > > > > >    conflicts).
> > > > > >    - 41 of 44 review threads resolved. The 3 remaining are
> > > intentional:
> > > > > >    one deferred perf nit, one that stays open until
> parquet-format
> > > > ships
> > > > > ALP,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With this both the
> > > > > > 1) C++ PR : https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/48345/changes
> > > > > > 2) Java PR : https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3397
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are cross language tested and range of test scenarios.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best
> > > > > > Prateek
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 8:38 AM PRATEEK GAUR <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Matt,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'll be on it this week.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best
> > > > > >> Prateek
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 8:36 AM Matt Topol <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> There is also the Go implementation submitted by Arnav (
> > > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/arrow-go/pull/704) which is waiting
> > for
> > > > > >>> updates.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost here.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --Matt
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 11:30 AM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> > Hi all,
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I'd like to share a status update on the ALP encoding effort
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>> feel
> > > > > >>> > from the community before starting a formal vote.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > We now have the specification plus implementations in both
> > > > languages:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >     - Spec:         apache/parquet-format#557 — GH-533 Add
> ALP
> > > > > encoding
> > > > > >>> > specification
> > > > > >>> >     - C++ (Arrow):  apache/arrow#48345 — GH-48701
> > [C++][Parquet]
> > > > Add
> > > > > >>> ALPpd
> > > > > >>> > encoding
> > > > > >>> >     - Java:         apache/parquet-java#3397 — Parquet Java
> ALP
> > > > > >>> > Implementation (by Vinoo)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Current state:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >     - The C++ implementation has been through 3-4 rounds of
> > > review.
> > > > > >>> >     - The Java implementation has been tracking well and has
> > had
> > > > > >>> initial
> > > > > >>> >       reviews from contributors, with no major remaining
> > issues.
> > > > > >>> >     - Cross-language compatibility tests are passing: the
> Arrow
> > > C++
> > > > > >>> decoder
> > > > > >>> >       reads Java-written data bit-exactly across ~1.56M
> values
> > > and
> > > > 18
> > > > > >>> >       fixtures, covering V1 and V2 pages, multiple vector
> > sizes,
> > > > and
> > > > > >>> > several
> > > > > >>> >       real datasets — zero mismatches.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >  As raised in the java-pr we will be adding coverage for
> > extreme
> > > > > values
> > > > > >>> > (those requiring
> > > > > >>> >  63-64 bits after FOR is applied) before we close a vote.
> We'll
> > > aim
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>> get
> > > > > >>> > that
> > > > > >>> >  done in parallel.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Plan: unless there are objections, I intend to start a vote
> at
> > > the
> > > > > end
> > > > > >>> of
> > > > > >>> > this week/early
> > > > > >>> > next week.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Thanks
> > > > > >>> > Prateek
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2026 at 8:50 AM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > > Hi Team,
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > Just wanted to provide some updates on ALP.
> > > > > >>> > > Micah and I have done 3-4 rounds of review for the c++ PR :
> > > > > >>> > > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/48345
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > For the Java implementation Vinoo has been working on
> > following
> > > > PR
> > > > > :
> > > > > >>> > > https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3397
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > Best
> > > > > >>> > > Prateek
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > > On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 1:50 PM Micah Kornfield <
> > > > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> Hi Antoine,
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > Apologies if the question was already asked, but should
> we
> > > > care
> > > > > >>> about
> > > > > >>> > >> > FLOAT16 for ALP? Can FLOAT + ALP be more efficient than
> > > > FLOAT16
> > > > > +
> > > > > >>> > >> > BYTE_STREAM_SPLIT + LZ4 for example?
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> It was.  We thought we could defer it for the following
> > > reasons:
> > > > > >>> > >> 1.  It's not clear there are a lot of easy reference
> > datasets
> > > to
> > > > > >>> test
> > > > > >>> > its
> > > > > >>> > >> effectiveness.  It does look like there might be one or
> two
> > on
> > > > > >>> > huggingface
> > > > > >>> > >> (e.g. https://huggingface.co/datasets/kikitora/curdie).
> > > > > >>> > >> 2.  It seemed likely that float 16 was more likely used
> for
> > > > values
> > > > > >>> that
> > > > > >>> > >> were less likely to reduce to decimal values.
> > > > > >>> > >> 3.  It could be added as an extension later if needed.
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> Cheers,
> > > > > >>> > >> Micah
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 1:40 PM Antoine Pitrou <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > Hello,
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > Apologies if the question was already asked, but should
> we
> > > > care
> > > > > >>> about
> > > > > >>> > >> > FLOAT16 for ALP? Can FLOAT + ALP be more efficient than
> > > > FLOAT16
> > > > > +
> > > > > >>> > >> > BYTE_STREAM_SPLIT + LZ4 for example?
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > Regards
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > Antoine.
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > Le 30/04/2026 à 01:10, PRATEEK GAUR a écrit :
> > > > > >>> > >> > > Thanks Andrew and Micah for review feedback on the two
> > > PR's
> > > > > >>> > >> > > 1) (c++ arrow repo)
> > > > > >>> > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/48345/changes
> > > > > >>> > >> > > 2) (parquet-format repo)
> > > > > >>> > >> > https://github.com/apache/parquet-format/pull/557
> > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> > > I have addressed all (unless I missed something)
> > comments
> > > on
> > > > > >>> the two
> > > > > >>> > >> > PR's.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> > > Best
> > > > > >>> > >> > > Prateek
> > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 1:08 PM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > > > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> Thanks Andrew and Micah.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> `fair amount of feedback on at least the
> > implementations`
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> For the c++ I have already started addressing the
> > > > feedback, I
> > > > > >>> > should
> > > > > >>> > >> be
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> done with that Monday/Tuesday.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> I think Vinoo too has been making good progress on
> the
> > > Java
> > > > > >>> > >> > implementation.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> Best
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> Prateek
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:55 PM Andrew Lamb <
> > > > > >>> > [email protected]
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>> Got it. Thank you for the clarification -- I will
> try
> > > and
> > > > > look
> > > > > >>> > into
> > > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>> spec and the Rust implementation[1] in this next
> week
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>> [1]: https://github.com/apache/arrow-rs/pull/9372
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:01 PM Micah Kornfield <
> > > > > >>> > >> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> I think there is a fair amount of feedback on at
> > least
> > > > the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> implementations, typically I think we've waited
> till
> > > they
> > > > > are
> > > > > >>> > >> close to
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> mergeable before a final vote.  Otherwise I agree
> we
> > > are
> > > > > very
> > > > > >>> > >> close.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> -Micah
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>> On Saturday, April 25, 2026, Andrew Lamb <
> > > > > >>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> Thanks Prateek,
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> I think from this content it looks to me like we
> are
> > > > ready
> > > > > >>> to
> > > > > >>> > >> start a
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> vote to explicitly accept ALP into Parquet
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> Does anyone know of a reason we should postpone it
> > for
> > > > > >>> longer?
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> Perhaps someone needs some more time to review?
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> Andrew
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 1:00 PM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > > > > >>> > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> Hi team,
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> Hope everyone is doing well. I got a chance to
> work
> > > > > >>> through all
> > > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> remaining feedback and update the spec doc. Here
> > are
> > > > the
> > > > > >>> new
> > > > > >>> > >> > artifacts
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> 1) Spec document :
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xz2cudDpN2Y1ImFcTXh15s-3fPtD_aWt/edit
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> 2) Spec document in parquet format repo :
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/parquet-format/pull/557
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> 3) Alp implementation in arrow c++ repo :
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/48345/changes
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> 4) Alp implementation in parquet-java repo : Work
> > for
> > > > > >>> Vinoo and
> > > > > >>> > >> > Julien
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/pull/3397
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> 5) PR with test and benchmarking artifacts in
> > > > > >>> parquet-testing
> > > > > >>> > >> repo :
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/parquet-testing/pull/100
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> And
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     - Go : Arnav just submitted an in progress
> > > > > >>> implementation
> > > > > >>> > in
> > > > > >>> > >> Go.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     https://github.com/apache/arrow-go/pull/704
> (I
> > > > > haven't
> > > > > >>> > >> started
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     looking at it yet)
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     - Rust : I remember Andrew mentioned that
> this
> > > work
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>> also
> > > > > >>> > >> in
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     progress (So 4 languages!)
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> *Arrow C++ implementation *
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> The PR is out and was also used by Antoine to
> > report
> > > > the
> > > > > >>> > numbers
> > > > > >>> > >> as
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> reported here. Micah and Konstantin have given 1
> > > round
> > > > of
> > > > > >>> > >> feedback
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> and I'm addressing them today. Please note that
> the
> > > > > default
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> optimization flag for compiling is O2 and not
> Q3. I
> > > got
> > > > > >>> around
> > > > > >>> > >> 70%
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> performance improvement in the decoding speed
> when
> > > > using
> > > > > >>> the O3
> > > > > >>> > >> > flag.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> *Parqet-MR Java implementation (working with
> Vinoo
> > > and
> > > > > >>> Julien)
> > > > > >>> > >> and
> > > > > >>> > >> > **Cross
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> Language testing*
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>     Let me know if you have any questions or
> > > feedback.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> Now pasting some performance numbers
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    Table 1: C++ ALP Double Decode — Spotify
> Columns
> > > > > >>> (Graviton
> > > > > >>> > 3,
> > > > > >>> > >> ARM
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> Neoverse V1)
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> ┌──────────────────┬──────────────┬──────────────┬─────────┐
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    │ Column           │  -O2 (MB/s)  │  -O3
> > (MB/s)  │
> > > > > >>> Speedup │
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> ├──────────────────┼──────────────┼──────────────┼─────────┤
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    │ valence          │     3,155    │     5,523
> >   │
> > > > > >>> 1.75x  │
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    │ danceability     │     3,233    │     5,685
> >   │
> > > > > >>> 1.76x  │
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    │ energy           │     3,197    │     5,652
> >   │
> > > > > >>> 1.77x  │
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>    │ loudness         │     3,186    │     5,473
> >   │
> > > > > >>> 1.72x  │
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> └──────────────────┴──────────────┴──────────────┴─────────┘
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 9:49 AM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > > > > >>> > [email protected]
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> @Micah Kornfield <[email protected]> : Got
> > it.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> @Andrew Lamb <[email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Do you think it would be good to start moving
> the
> > > > spec
> > > > > >>> > >> development
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> into
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> markdown format, in preparation for finalizing
> > it?
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> Yes I'll update the numbers for some of the
> > > examples I
> > > > > >>> have in
> > > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> spec based
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> on the updated header size. Then we should be
> good
> > > to
> > > > go
> > > > > >>> for
> > > > > >>> > the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> markdown format.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Andrew
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 7:28 PM PRATEEK GAUR <
> > > > > >>> > >> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Hi team,
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> 1) Andrew
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - Thanks for working on test files. My PR
> > did
> > > > add
> > > > > >>> all
> > > > > >>> > the
> > > > > >>> > >> > test
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> files I
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     used to benchmark on datasets. Maybe we
> can
> > > club
> > > > > it
> > > > > >>> > >> together.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> WIll also
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> aid
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     cross language testing
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     -  Kosta Tarasov working on Rust
> > > implementation.
> > > > > >>> This is
> > > > > >>> > >> > great.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> 2) Antoine
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - Thanks a lot for reporting the numbers
> on
> > > AMD.
> > > > > >>> Looks
> > > > > >>> > >> like
> > > > > >>> > >> > you
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> are
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     getting 8X the decoding performance of
> BSS.
> > > This
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>> > >> > amazing!!.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - Thanks for acknowledging the sampling
> > > design.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - I agree with you on Fastlanes. In some
> > crude
> > > > > >>> > >> experiments I
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> didn't get
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     a good perf benefit from it on Graviton3
> > (but
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > >>> > there
> > > > > >>> > >> was
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> something
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     wrong with my implementation).
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - Locking the 16bit exception encoding for
> > the
> > > > > spec
> > > > > >>> in
> > > > > >>> > >> this
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> case.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - Awesome I think we have solved for all
> > open
> > > > > >>> questions
> > > > > >>> > >> minus
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     version byte :). (will get back on this
> > soon)
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> 3) Micah
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     - FastLanes : The current spec does allow
> > for
> > > > > using
> > > > > >>> > >> FastLane
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> with the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     configurable enum value for layout. We
> > should
> > > be
> > > > > >>> able to
> > > > > >>> > >> > inject
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> any
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> layout
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>     in the current design.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Working on resolving all remaining open
> comments
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>> spec
> > > > > >>> > >> this
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> week.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Best
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Prateek
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 3:37 AM Steve
> Loughran <
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Feb 2026 at 18:12, Micah Kornfield
> <
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the actual issue described for
> > ORC
> > > > in
> > > > > >>> the
> > > > > >>> > >> paper
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> is that
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> has multiple sub-encodings in a batch.  This
> > is
> > > > > >>> different
> > > > > >>> > >> then
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> design
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> proposed here where there is still fixed
> > > encoding
> > > > > per
> > > > > >>> page
> > > > > >>> > >> in
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> parquet.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Given reasonably sized pages I don't think
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> misprediction should
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> be a
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> big issue for new encodings.  I agree that
> we
> > > > should
> > > > > >>> be
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> conservative in
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> general for adding new encodings.
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> +1
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > > >>> > >>
> > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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